347. The Cycles We’re Breaking: Abby, Amanda &amp; Glennon

Abby, Glennon, and Amanda discuss Tuesday’s conversation with Dr. Mariel Buqué about intergenerational trauma. Each share examples of how they’re working on healing it in their lives and families. 

Discover:
-Abby’s hilarious and heartbreaking breakdown that revealed how deeply she’s into her healing work.
-Why Glennon no longer believes that she has a debilitating mental illness; and
-The shocking study that made Amanda feel a kinship with mice (literally).

Check out Episode 346. How to Break Family Cycles: Dr. Mariel Buqué here.
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349. How to Stop Pleasing and Start Living

Amanda and Glennon answer your questions about friendship, mental health, people pleasing and the difference between boundaries and control. 

Discover: 
-Why if you’re a person who “goes with the flow” you might want to reconsider;
-What to do when you feel the loss of a friend getting into a new relationship;
-The truth about married men who refuse to socialize with women who are not their wife; and 
-The healing power of getting a mental health diagnosis later in life.
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How to Stop Pleasing and Start Living

The Cycles We’re Breaking: Abby, Amanda & Glennon

341. Abby: How to Move On after Grief 

In part two of Abby’s sharing about the loss of her eldest brother, Peter – she opens up more about the revelations that her journey with grief has taught her about life.

To hear the first part of our conversation on grief, check out Episode 340. How Abby Survived Her Biggest Loss

Discover: 
-Why Abby now looks at grief like a friend;
-The beautiful story of how Peter saved Abby’s life and how that hits her now; and
-What was truly underneath Abby’s outsized fear of death this whole time.
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Abby: How to Move On after Grief 

340. How Abby Survived Her Biggest Loss 

Abby shares an intimate account of the loss of her eldest brother, Peter, at the end of 2023. She describes the emotional turmoil she’s experienced and how she’s coping with her family's grief, the planning of the service, and the overwhelming mix of emotions she continues to feel surrounding grief and death.
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How Abby Survived Her Biggest Loss 

337. How to Heal Unhealthy Relationship Patterns + Glennon &amp; Abby On Marriage

Glennon and Abby are talking about relationships, including the relationship to self, marriage, and how to start dating again post-divorce. 

Discover: 
-The three vital steps to heal an unhealthy pattern in your life;
-How Glennon truly feels about taking your spouse’s last name; and
-Advice on where queer people can go in real life to meet each other!
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How to Heal Unhealthy Relationship Patterns + Glennon & Abby On Marriage

334. How to Save The World &amp; Yourself with Prentis Hemphill 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda welcome back writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist, Prentis Hemphill. They will be sharing with you on how to take care of yourself while being informed and doing your part to help the world and your community in the midst of the 2024 election and the crises our world is facing. 
Discover:
-A third way of existing in the current political landscape that isn’t disregulation or escapism;
-How to get out of your head and into your body;
-Why the most helpful way of being with your kids is not to protect them, and what is; and 
-Why chaos is necessary for creativity and change and how to use it.

On Prentis: Prentis Hemphill is a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They are the founder and director of the Embodiment Institute and the Black Embodiment Initiative, and the host of the acclaimed podcast Finding Our Way. Their work and writing have appeared in The New York Times, HuffPost, You Are Your Best Thing (edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown), and Holding Change (by adrienne maree brown). And their new book is called, What it takes to heal. 
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How to Save The World & Yourself with Prentis Hemphill 

333. Olympic Magic with Briana Scurry

One of the world's most talented and influential goalkeepers and Olympians, Briana Scurry, joins us for an inspiring conversation. Brianna reflects on her historic career as the starting goalkeeper for the United States Women's National Team, sharing her experiences from winning two Olympic gold medals to making the iconic save in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup final. 

About Briana: 
Named starting goalkeeper for the United States Women’s National Team in 1994, Scurry led the team on an illustrious run that included two Olympic gold medals. In the 1999 FIFA World Cup Championship – Briana made the iconic penalty kick save that carried the United States to victory. Briana was selected to the United States Women’s National Team’s All-Time Best XI and was selected as the permanent Title IX Exhibit in the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture. 

In 2022, Scurry released her best-selling memoir, My Greatest Save, and was also the subject of The Only, a CBS feature-length documentary chronicling her life.
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Olympic Magic with Briana Scurry

332. Christen Press &amp; Tobin Heath: THE OLYMPICS! THE SOCCER!

Abby, Glennon and Amanda are talking ALL about The Olympics and US Women’s Soccer with Olympians and soccer legends, Christen Press and Tobin Heath. 

Discover:
-Their take on the impact of not having Alex Morgan on the team;
-The Canada cheating scandal and Christen’s solution for it;
-What Tobin would have done differently, if anything, in the Germany game; and
-How Tobin, Christen, and Abby feel about our chances of winning the games.
On the guests:
Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion, two-time Olympic gold medalist, and an equal pay pioneer. She is one of the all-time top 10 goalscorers on the U.S. Women’s National Team and currently plays for Angel City FC. Christen led the USWNT's historic achievement of Equal Pay and served as the leader of the USWNT Players Association for 2 years. Christen is Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, a values-led brand that exists to reimagine the way women are seen and experienced in sports. 

Tobin Heath is a two-time World Cup Champion and two-time Olympic gold medalist, known as one of the most skillful and entertaining players in the game. Throughout her club career, Heath has played for PSG, the Portland Thorns, Manchester United, and Arsenal. Tobin has taken her vision, leadership, and creativity off the pitch and into her roles as Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, and host of the critically-acclaimed The RE—CAP Show. Tobin will be going live directly following each US Women’s Soccer Olympic game to Debrief with the community.
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Christen Press & Tobin Heath: THE OLYMPICS! THE SOCCER!

Political expert and founder of NewsNotNoise, Jessica Yellen, is back to discuss the political developments following President Biden's announcement to drop out of the race and endorse Kamala Harris, including the Democratic Party's next steps and strategy moving forward, the impact of the recent events on the Republican campaign, and the upcoming convention.

Discover:
-The front runners for the Vice Presidential selection: and the benefits and drawbacks of each;
-The attacks Republicans are planning to wield against VP Harris;
-Why it looks like Trump may be scared to debate VP Kamala Harris; and
-How you can get involved in electing VP Harris as our first woman President. HINT: We meet tonight!
Link to the meeting to Support Kamala Harris: https://www.answerthecall2024.com/
On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack. 

Get her newsletter here: https://newsnotnoise.com/newsletter
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On Kamala Harris & What’s Next with Jessica Yellin

330. Good vs. High Conflict: Amanda Ripley On Engaging Effectively

Conflict expert and investigative journalist, Amanda Ripley, delves into the complex nature of conflict and how it shapes our lives. The discussion challenges the conventional negative view of conflict and explores how 'good conflict' can lead to growth and progress.

Discover: 
-The difference between ‘high conflict’ and ‘good conflict’; 
-How to avoid the trip wires that lead to high conflict; 
-The best tool to connect with someone you disagree with; and 
-The four main stories behind every conflict.

About Amanda: 
Amanda Ripley is an investigative journalist and author. Her most recent book is High Conflict, which chronicles how people get trapped by conflicts of all kinds—and how they get out. Her previous books include The Unthinkable, and The Smartest Kids in the World, a New York Times bestseller which was also turned into a documentary film.

IG: @ripleywriter @thegoodconflict
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Handling Conflict Right with Amanda Ripley

329. Mental Load: Find Healing In Your Partnership &amp; Balance Inequality in Your Home with Kate Mangino

Gender expert Kate Mangino discusses the depths of carrying the mental load in a family–even when you have a partner who wants to be supportive.

Listen to this conversation with your partner(s):
 
-The stages of mental load – and why “helping out” or completing a task doesn’t reduce it;
-The cost to partners who miss out on fully participating in the mental load of the household; and 
-The shocking statistics about the difference between childcare in the 70s and now.

Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home is available in paperback wherever books are sold on August 20th.

About Kate: 
Kate Mangino is a gender expert who works with international organizations to promote social change. She has written and delivered curricula in over 20 countries about issues such as: gender equality, women’s empowerment, healthy masculinity, HIV prevention, and early and forced childhood marriage. Kate is the author of Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home.

Other episodes to check out:
6. OVERWHELM: Is our exhaustion a sign that we’re CareTicking time bombs? 
246. The Answer to Caregiving Burnout with Ai-jen Poo 
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Mental Load: Find Healing In Your Partnership & Balance Inequality in Your Home with Kate Mangino

328. How to Stop Avoiding Yourself: Feel The Loneliness, Jealousy &amp; Longing

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda discuss how to move through loneliness, longing and jealousy. Glennon and Abby also share their experience at The Gracie Awards and recap their heartfelt speech about breast health and dense breasts dedicated to Amanda. 

Discover: 
-What loneliness might be trying to teach us; 
-How Glennon really feels about jealousy and women supporting women; 
-Why it’s so hard to remove all the obstacles we create to connection and love; and
-How to let go of the picture of how it’s “supposed” to be.
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How to Stop Avoiding Yourself: Feel The Loneliness, Jealousy & Longing 

327. Inside Out 2 Review + Our Fav Books &amp; TV Right Now 

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby discuss Pixar’s new film, 'Inside Out 2,' exploring its depiction of emotions, particularly focusing on anxiety and its role in our lives. Per Pod Squad request, they also share what they’ve each been reading and watching, so you can add to your list! 

Discover: 
-Which emotion from Inside Out 2 they each related to the most; 
-Glennon’s new morning practice to help ease her anxiety; 
-Why Glennon rarely shares what she’s reading publicly; and
-Abby’s TV show rec to help you take a break from yourself.
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Inside Out 2 Review + Our Fav Books & TV Right Now 

326. Why We Can’t Sleep &amp; How to Fix It with Dr. Shelby Harris 

Psychologist and sleep expert, Dr. Shelby Harris, takes us on a deep dive into our most important pillar of health: SLEEP. From insomnia to night anxiety to revenge procrastination to snoring partners, Dr. Shelby Harris has realistic, concrete advice to help us understand why we struggle – and how to get the sleep we need.    

How much sleep should we really get – and the signs we’re not getting enough.

Realistic sleep wellness for women – and how to share the mental load that’s keeping us up. 

How to handle snoring – and how to create a sleep alliance with our partners – (this part changed Abby and Glennon’s sleep plan forever!)

Plus, Abby’s hot tip for fixing your social media algorithm. (Spoiler alert: Highland mini cows.) 

About Dr. Harris: 
Dr. Shelby Harris is a psychologist and sleep specialist who treats a wide variety of sleep, anxiety, and depression issues. In addition to her book The Women’s Guide to Overcoming Insomnia, Dr. Harris has been a columnist for the New York Times, and has been featured in other media including the New Yorker, Washington Post, Today Show, and Good Morning America. Dr. Harris can be found on Instagram at @SleepDocShelby where she provides evidence-based information about sleep wellness and sleep disorders.
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Why We Can’t Sleep & How to Fix It with Dr. Shelby Harris

325. Glennon &amp; Abby's Guide to Confronting Crisis with Compassion

Glennon and Abby discuss how they have gotten through recent crises, and take your questions on how to get through life’s most challenging moments. 

Discover: 
-Why Glennon suspects this time might actually be beautiful and why Abby feels like an exposed root;
-From laying on the floor to finding solace in art, what to do tumultuous times; and
-A tip for how to start processing when you feel emotionally blocked.
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Glennon & Abby's Guide to Confronting Crisis with Compassion

324. The Embodied Path to Healing Trauma with Resmaa Menakem

Author, therapist, licensed clinical worker, racialized trauma expert, Resmaa Menakem discusses the concepts of somatic abolitionism, and the importance of embodied anti-racist practices. 

Discover: 
-The difference between clean and dirty pain;
-What white people need to do in order to help create an anti-racist society; and
-Why we should shift from looking at the personal to looking at the historical to heal our traumas.

On Resmaa: Resmaa Menakem is an author, agent of change, therapist, and licensed clinical worker specializing in racialized trauma, communal healing, and cultural first aid. As the leading proponent of Somatic Abolitionism – an embodied anti-racist practice for living and culture building – Resmaa is the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions and the Cultural Somatics Institute.

Resmaa works at the intersections of anti-racism, communal healing, and embodied purpose, and is the author of the New York Times bestseller My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation’s Upheaval and Racial Reckoning, Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy—And What You Can Do About It, and The Stories from My Grandmother’s Hands, a children’s picture book with actor T. Mychael Rambo and illustrator Leroy Campbell.

In 2023, Resmaa released an on-demand self-paced course titled Healing Racialized Trauma: Somatic Abolitionism for Every Body. You can learn more about Resmaa and his work at www.resmaa.com.

Work with Resmaa: https://blackoctopussociety.com/ 
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The Embodied Path to Healing Trauma with Resmaa Menakem

323. Glennon’s Friendship Contract with Alex Hedison

Part two of our conversation artist, actor, photographer, filmmaker and bestie of Glennon and Abby, Alex Hedison! In this episode, Alex talks about what it means to stress a relationship, authentic friendship, and the importance of being authentic in every area of your life. 

Check out our first episode with Alex HERE: [insert link here]

Discover: 
-Glennon and Alex’s friendship contract and the terms they agreed to;
-How to make room for the awkward, twisty parts in friendship; and
-Why we must not quietly quit people who are important to us.

About Alex:
Alex Hedison is an internationally acclaimed photographer, artist, director, and actor. Hedison has exhibited in galleries in the US and abroad. Her most recent solo exhibitions include the opening of FRIEZE Seoul 2023; Von Lintel Gallery, Los Angeles; H Gallery Paris; Photo London; and Paris Photo. Her acting career spans numerous television roles, including a pivotal character in the cultural phenomenon, The L Word. A critical voice in both the artistic and LGBTQ+ community, Hedison directed the short documentary film ALOK, a thought-provoking short film that explores compassion as a catalyst for social transformation and inspires viewers to embrace personal freedom beyond the binaries that divide us. Produced by Natalie Shirinian, Elizabeth Baudouin (pronounced Bode-win), Meggan Lennon, and executive produced by Jodie Foster, ALOK was selected to premiere at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival.

IG: @alexhedisonstudio
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Glennon’s Friendship Contract with Alex Hedison

322. The One Who Taught Glennon Friendship: Alex Hedison  

Today is a big day. Artist, actor, photographer, filmmaker, and dear bestie of Glennon and Abby, Alex Hedison is here! Alex is the person who Glennon credits with teaching her how to be a friend. HUGE! In this episode, they share how their friendship started, how they make it work, and Alex offers amazing life advice. It’s like being a fly on the wall in one of their hangouts. You will LOVE this chat between Alex, Glennon, Abby and Amanda!

Discover: 
-The story of how Glennon and Abby became friends with Alex and her wife, Jodie Foster;
-The literal fire that solidified their friendship; 
-How to never have an ick moment again after a social gathering; and
-Why we MUST stress our relationships and what that means in action.

About Alex:
Alex Hedison is an internationally acclaimed photographer, artist, director, and actor. Hedison has exhibited in galleries in the US and abroad. Her most recent solo exhibitions include the opening of FRIEZE Seoul 2023; Von Lintel Gallery, Los Angeles; H Gallery Paris; Photo London; and Paris Photo. Her acting career spans numerous television roles, including a pivotal character in the cultural phenomenon, The L Word. A critical voice in both the artistic and LGBTQ+ community, Hedison directed the short documentary film ALOK, a thought-provoking short film that explores compassion as a catalyst for social transformation and inspires viewers to embrace personal freedom beyond the binaries that divide us. Produced by Natalie Shirinian, Elizabeth Baudouin (pronounced Bode-win), Meggan Lennon, and executive produced by Jodie Foster, ALOK was selected to premiere at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival.

IG: @alexhedisonstudio
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The One Who Taught Glennon Friendship: Alex Hedison

321. Expert Advice on Genetic Testing, Cancer Prevention &amp; Care Disparities with Dr. Rachel Brem

Dr. Rachel Brem is back to discuss genetic testing for breast cancer risk, systemic issues within the medical establishment, guidance for those with dense breasts, and practical advice on MRI and mammograms. Plus, we’ll hear some of the heartfelt and inspiring messages you’ve left us since you learned of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 
-The shocking statistic about who is most susceptible to breast cancer;
-Why every doctor has a bias and what to do about it;
-The truth about “overdiagnosis”; and 
-How to get genetic testing and what to do with the information you receive.

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find our first episode with Dr. Brem here: 320. Early Detection, Mammograms &amp; Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem 
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320. Early Detection, Mammograms &amp; Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

Amanda shares an update on her recovery from breast cancer. Then, renowned breast cancer expert, Dr. Rachel Brem, joins the conversation to discuss the critical importance of early detection, breast density's impact on mammography, and when we need additional screenings. 

Discover: 
-The differing guidance on screenings and the truth about how often you should actually get screened for cancer;
-Advice on what to say to your doctors to make sure that you get the screening you need and so that they can be covered under insurance; and
-How to learn how dense your breasts are and what to do with that information. 

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find more resources at The Brem Foundation Website: https://www.bremfoundation.org/ 

Check out Dr. Brem’s Book, No Longer Radical: https://www.nolongerradical.com/
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Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

319. Breaking Generational Cycles: Embodiment &amp; Healing Trauma with Prentis Hemphill

Glennon and Abby welcome Prentis Hemphill, a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They discuss individual and collective healing through embodiment. The conversation spans the concepts of embodiment, cycle breaking within families and generational healing and how to get back into a healthier relationship with yourself and others. 

Discover: 
-The important practice of crying dates to help rediscover yourself &amp; your instincts;
-How to learn the difference between your trauma and your personality; and
-What it means to be a cycle breaker &amp; how to own your part in generational healing.

About Prentis: Prentis Hemphill is a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They are the founder and director of the Embodiment Institute and the Black Embodiment Initiative, and the host of the acclaimed podcast Finding Our Way. Their work and writing have appeared in The New York Times, HuffPost, You Are Your Best Thing (edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown), and Holding Change (by adrienne maree brown). And their new book is called, What it takes to heal. 
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Breaking Generational Cycles: Embodiment & Healing Trauma with Prentis Hemphill

318. Tegan and Sara Ask: Did We Do Enough? 

Tegan and Sara join us for a heartfelt conversation about sisterhood, career, legacy, and the loneliness of being “The First”. 

Discover: 
-Why Tegan and Sara are asking themselves, “Did we do enough?”;
-Their backstage disputes and what it taught them about resolving family disagreement; 
-The pain and beauty of paving the way, and how Abby relates; and
-The one question you need to ask yourself to know whether your life is actually working for you.

About Tegan &amp; Sara
Throughout their career of over 20 years, Tegan and Sara have built a multi-faceted media empire that extends into TV, books, newsletters, and public service, always deeply rooted in music. 

With multiple JUNO Award wins and numerous GRAMMY, GLAAD, and Polaris Prize Award nominations, Tegan and Sara’s crowning achievement is the Tegan and Sara Foundation.
Tegan and Sara are the authors of the New York Times best-selling memoir High School. Their second book, Tegan &amp; Sara: Crush, will be released on October 1, 2024.

IG: @teganandsara
X: @teganandsara 
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Tegan and Sara Ask: Did We Do Enough?

317. What Amanda’s Learned About Life, Love &amp; Community (Post Surgery Pt 2) 

Amanda details surgery day, her healing process, and the role her community has played in getting her through it all. 

Discover: 
-The choice Amanda made about who came back with her for surgery;
-Amanda’s scariest and lowest moments so far, as well as the most beautiful ones; and
-Abby’s advice about how to approach surgeries and your relationship with your doctors; 
To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, as well as the one before this, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

-Episode 316: Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know
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316. Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know 

Amanda returns nine days post surgery to share more about the process of finding a surgeon, the importance of seeking multiple medical opinions, the critical elements of preparing for surgery, and how she’s recovering so far. This episode is full of insights and tips for those going through a breast cancer diagnosis or those who love someone who is going through one. As you listen, please note that the hosts are not medical professionals, but only sharing their own personal experience. For any medical advice, please consult with your doctor. 

Discover: 
-Amanda, Glennon and Abby’s three must-have tips to handle doctors appointments; 
-Some important things Amanda found out about mastectomies and female pleasure, and why it is important to bring it up to your doctor; and
-An emotional moment Amanda had while finding a surgeon and how Glennon and Abby helped her through it. 

To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 
-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2) 
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Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know 

315. Grief: How to Move Through Losing a Friend with Sloane Crosley

CW: Discussion of suicide 

Abby and Glennon welcome New York Times bestselling author Sloane Crosley. Sloane shares her experience of losing her dear friend to suicide and the grief journey she went on in the aftermath. The conversation explores handling loss, the nuances of friendship, humor in the face of sorrow, and living in the present moment.

Discover: 
-Whether the desire to give meaning to a death helps or hurts the grieving process;
-What NOT to say after someone dies by suicide and what might help; 
-The place of humor in grief: when it’s useful and when it’s a coverup; and
-The reason you have every right to deeply grieve a friend and the pain of grief hierarchies. 

About Sloane: 
Sloane Crosley is the New York Times bestselling author of the new memoir Grief Is for People; the novels Cult Classic and The Clasp; and three essay collections: Look Alive Out There, I Was Told There’d Be Cake, and How Did You Get This Number. She lives in New York City.
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Grief: How to Move Through Losing a Friend with Sloane Crosley

314. Jealousy: Glennon &amp; Abby Share It All 

Glennon and Abby candidly discuss their personal experiences with jealousy. They explore how jealousy manifests, its implications on their connection, and the steps they've taken toward understanding and addressing it.

Discover:
-Abby and Glennon’s jealousy origin stories;
-Abby’s confession to Glennon about her jealousy;
-Why self trust might be the key to overcoming jealousy; and
-How Glennon and Abby protect each other’s hearts AND wounds in their relationship.

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Jealousy: Glennon & Abby Share It All 

313. How to Turn a Mistake into Magic with Suleika Jaouad

Glennon speaks one-on-one with the brilliant Suleika Jaouad about Suleika's journey through the messy middle – living well in a body that does not feel well, and creating a life of beautiful defiance.

Discover: 


Why believing we should “Live everyday like our last” is unhelpful;

Why the unproductive periods of life are *actually* where you do the most work;

The specific, best ways to really show up for friends who are in the messy middle; 

How to alchemize your pain into creativity; and

The lessons we can all learn from Jellyfish  


Suleika Jaouad is the author of the instant New York Times bestselling memoir, Between Two Kingdoms. She wrote the Emmy Award-winning New York Times column “Life, Interrupted,” and her reporting and essays have been featured in the New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue, and NPR, among others. A highly sought-after speaker, her TED Talk – “What Almost Dying Taught Me About Living” – has nearly five million views. She is also the creator of The Isolation Journals, a community creativity project founded during the pandemic to help others convert isolation into artistic solitude.

IG: @suleikajaouad
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How to Turn a Mistake into Magic with Suleika Jaouad

312. Potholes &amp; Productive Conflict in Relationships with Abby &amp; Glennon

Abby and Glennon answer ALL of your relationship questions. We get into juicy topics like how to fight better, the balance of individuation and connection in relationships, and how to take ownership of your own feelings vs. judging your partner’s behaviors. 

Discover: 
-What introverts and extroverts have to learn from each other and how they can be in a relationship effectively;
-Abby and Glennon’s unbelievable golf cart fight and tips on how to have more productive conflicts; 
-How to let go of the need to control someone else; and
-What Abby means when she says, “woof.”
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Potholes & Productive Conflict in Relationships with Abby & Glennon

311. Post Diagnosis: Glennon &amp; Abby Reflect and Decide What Needs to Change 

Glennon and Abby reflect on the dynamics of love, control, and support in relationships in the wake of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 
-The simple sentence that Tish said to Glennon that shattered her reality;
-Glennon’s creative way of reading books &amp; what it has to do with controlling others; and
-Why Glennon didn’t speak for a week after finding out sister’s diagnosis &amp; what it felt like inside.
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Post Diagnosis: Glennon & Abby Reflect and Decide What Needs to Change 

310. Amanda’s Diagnosis &amp; What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

In Part 2, Amanda shares more from the messy middle of her breast cancer diagnosis. She talks candidly about her hopes, fears, and what she has realized really matters. 

To listen to the first part of our conversation with Amanda, click here: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1)
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Amanda’s Diagnosis & What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

309. Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

Amanda shares the news about her health and what’s next for her healing. Amanda, Glennon, and Abby go into the tactical, philosophical and emotional aspects of this diagnosis and all share how they’re feeling about it and working through it at this moment.
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Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

308. Brittney Griner On Coming Home &amp; Recovering From Trauma 

Glennon and Abby talk with athlete, humanitarian, activist–and one of the bravest people they’ve met–Brittney Griner. Brittney discusses her harrowing experience in the Russian prison system, as well as her basketball career, recovering from trauma, and her excitement over becoming a parent. 

Discover: 
-Why she went to Russia in the first place – and the gender pay gap in women’s sports; 
-Her first thought as she stepped foot on American soil after her time in a Russian penal colony;
-How she feels about America now that she’s back; and 
-How she reconciled her relationship with her dad after having a tough time coming out 

About Brittney: 
BRITTNEY GRINER is a pioneer, humanitarian, and activist and was named as one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2023. Griner is an NCAA champion, a WNBA champion, and a two-time Olympic gold medalist. Winner of the Best Female Athlete ESPY Award, and a nine-time WNBA All-Star, Griner is one of the most decorated and influential athletes of this generation.

IG: @brittneyyevettegriner
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Brittney Griner On Coming Home & Recovering From Trauma 

307. Healing From Complex PTSD with Stephanie Foo

Abby, Amanda and Glennon are joined by author and radio producer, Stephanie Foo. They discuss Stephanie’s memoir, What My Bones Know, and her journey healing from Complex PTSD. 

Discover: 
-The difference between Trauma, PTSD and complex PTSD; 
-What “THE DREAD” is and how to know if you have it; 
-Why if the trauma is relational, the healing has to be relational, too, and what that means, in-action; and 
-Whether you can ever truly give what you never got as a parent. 


CW: Discussion of physical and verbal abuse and neglect.

About Stephanie:
Stephanie Foo is a writer and the author of the New York Times bestseller, WHAT MY BONES KNOW: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma. She is also a radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. A noted speaker and instructor, she has taught at Columbia University and has spoken at venues from Sundance Film Festival to the Missouri Department of Mental Health. She lives in New York City.

IG: @foofoofoo
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Healing From Complex PTSD with Stephanie Foo

306. The Truth of OCD: Therapist Alegra Kastens on Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Therapist Alegra Kastens shares the truth about her lived experience with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) that is vital for all of us to understand. Detailing her own struggle, and work as an OCD specialist, Alegra helps demystify the relentless cycle of ego-dystonic, intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and compulsions that define this often-misunderstood and under-diagnosed disorder – sharing why so many people have OCD and do not know it, and ways to support people with OCD without enabling and reinforcing the compulsions.

CW: Discussion of intrusive sexual and violent thoughts as well as suicidal ideation.

About Alegra:
Alegra Kastens is a licensed therapist, OCD specialist, writer, and the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders in New York City. Fueled by lived experience with a lesser-known manifestation of OCD, education and advocacy about OCD are at the forefront of her career.

IG: @AlegraKastens
TikTok: @AlegraKastens
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 The Truth of OCD: Therapist Alegra Kastens on Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder 

305. How to Self-Regulate, Heal Your Relationships &amp; Accept That You’ll Never Be Finished 

As we continue the discussion on Busyness, Amanda, Glennon &amp; Abby share more of their thoughts about the cult of Busyness – how buying into it shows up in you and your relationships, and how it leads to dysregulation and dissatisfaction in all areas of life. We go through the signs that might indicate you’re too busy and burnt out, how to know the difference between building a life and living a life, and why dysregulation can be a breadcrumb toward healing.

Discover: 
-Why the addiction of busyness will never be pointed out or helped by most people; 
-Why Abby says the idea of retirement is the greatest heist in human history; and
-The emotional breakdown Amanda had, which led to starting her healing journey.


Also check out:
304. Break Up with Busyness &amp; Let Go of Your To-Do List
281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain &amp; Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 
261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell
139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey
93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski 
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How to Self-Regulate, Heal Your Relationships & Accept That You’ll Never Be Finished 

304. Break Up with Busyness &amp; Let Go of Your To-Do List

Amanda delves into her relationship with Busyness and how she’s working through it. We’ll touch on topics such as the pervasive culture of busyness, productivity as a measure of self-worth, and the struggle to define personal boundaries and prioritize genuine happiness (after some hilarious banter between Glennon and Abby about how to deal with “disgusting” things in a relationship).

Discover: 
-Why Busyness is such a pervasive and oppressive cult for so many of us;
-How to decouple your self-esteem and identity from your productivity;
-The actionable tactic Amanda is using in her break up with Busyness; and
-How your pets prove that the religion of busyness is a lie. 

Check out these episodes, too:
281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain &amp; Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 
261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell
139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey
93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski 
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Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List

302. Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness &amp; the Upcoming Election

Chelsea Handler is back to join Glennon, Amanda, and Abby for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation about life. She tells us how she found her happiness, how to take accountability in your own life, and why – if she has to confront someone doing something WILD or offensive – she’s going to have a little fun! 

Discover: 
-Why being selfish is the ultimate gift we can give to the world and each other; 
-The unexpected side-effect Chelsea experienced from therapy and how to move through it if it’s happening to you, too;
-Chelsea’s thoughts about how to navigate big feelings during the upcoming election cycle; and 
-Chelsea’s story about a stranger on a chairlift and their exchange about Taylor Swift. 

For our previous conversation with Chelsea, check out:
115. Chelsea Handler: On Breaking Up &amp; Being Unbreakable

About Chelsea
Chelsea Handler is a comedian, television host, podcast host, author, and advocate whose humor and candor have established her as one of the most celebrated voices in entertainment and pop culture.

Chelsea is the author of six New York Times bestsellers, five of which are #1 bestsellers – including Life Will Be the Death of Me. She hosts the iHeart Radio advice podcast, Dear Chelsea – and her most recent critically acclaimed comedy special, Revolution, is available on Netflix. If you want to see her live, Chelsea is currently on her Little Big Bitch stand-up tour.

IG: @chelseahandler
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Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election

301. What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price 

We’re back with Fun Expert and author of, Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price, to talk more about fun: what it is and how to have more of it. Today, we’ll discuss whether fun and productivity can coexist, thoughts about women and fun, and why the right to fun might just be innately connected to the human experience AND activism.

Discover: 
-The definitive reason why Abby has the MOST fun and how you, too, can use her fun strategy; 
-Why fun actually increases creativity and productivity; 
-Why people view women having fun as offensive and why we must do it anyway; and 
-Actionable tools you can use to invite more fun into your life!

Check out the last episode we did with Catherine and these others about fun, too:
301. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 
4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?
62. The Big Lies &amp; the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos
63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos
216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 
Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

IG: @_catherineprice
X: @catherine_price
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What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price

300. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 

Pod Squad! Do you remember back in the very first days of the pod when we talked about FUN? It was episode 4. Now, hundreds of episodes later, we’re finally ready to give fun the long, deep dive and consideration it deserves. Abby is excited, Glennon is interested, and Amanda is skeptical, but we’re all here, ready to learn and maybe even to have a little fun. Thankfully, Fun Expert (how cool is that title?) and author of, The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price is here to be our fun ambassador and to teach us all how to draw more fun and fun opportunities into day-to-day life!

Discover: 

-The difference between real fun and fake fun;
-The mental load’s impact on fun;
-The three necessary ingredients for fun and how find your “Fun Magnets;” plus
-Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s stand out fun moments and how they plan to create more of that in their lives.
 
Check out these other episodes, too: 
4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?
62. The Big Lies &amp; the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos
63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos
216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 
Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

IG: @_catherineprice
X: @catherine_price
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FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 

299. Parenting: How to Nurture Yourself and Others

In this episode we’re going deep into parenting. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda (along with the help of Tracee Ellis Ross, Michelle Obama and Dr. Becky Kennedy) discuss the brutiful journey of parenting, reparenting ourselves, and learning how to love and be loved. 

Discover: 

-Tracee Ellis Ross rejects the lie that a woman’s purpose is to be “chosen” – and what “mothering” means to her
-Michelle Obama tells us how to finally live in our own enoughness; 
-How to know if you are engaging in “pendulum parenting;”
-The #1 strategy for all relationships: REPAIR, with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and 
-The moment Abby finally felt lovable. 

Check out the full episodes:
12. PARENTING: How do we make this thrilling, terrifying roller coaster ride a little bit easier?
167. Tracee Ellis Ross: How to Make Peace in Your Own Head
13. Brave Parenting Qs &amp; the Power of Saying YES!
193. MICHELLE OBAMA!
267. The #1 Relationship Strategy with Dr. Becky Kennedy
189. Abby for the 1st Time On Divorce &amp; Her Unrequited Love
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Parenting: How to Nurture Yourself and Others

298. How to Survive Your 20s, Abby On Bonus Parenting &amp; IS Anyone TRULY Toxic?

Amanda, Glennon and Abby give an update about things they’re thinking about including: Glennon’s favorite memes, Amanda’s realization about leadership in her family, and Abby’s exhaustion turned to joy. Plus, we answer questions from the Pod Squad on surviving your 20s, and how to navigate bonus parenthood.

Discover: 
-The simple, three-step process that revolutionized the way Amanda thinks about leadership and parenting; 
-Abby’s heartfelt advice to a Pod Squader on how to navigate her 20s &amp; why need ALL need it, no matter our age;
-Insight into Abby’s journey as a mother &amp; why being in your kid’s memories is everything; 
-Glennon’s surprising take on labeling people as “toxic” and what to do instead. 
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How to Survive Your 20s, Abby On Bonus Parenting & IS Anyone TRULY Toxic?

297. REAL Self-Care: Burnout Is Not Your Fault &amp; the Way Out with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin

Psychiatrist Dr. Pooja Lakshmin shows us how to tell the difference between the Faux Self-Care we’ve been sold versus the Real Self-Care we desperately need.

Discover: 


How to incorporate boundaries through the power of the pause and how to navigate the post-boundary ick with ease;

A simple tool to know whether you are being driven by your goals or driven by your values (and how to find and start living by your values today); and

Whether you might be in ‘martyr mode,’ and the key to getting out of it. 



About Pooja: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin is a board-certified psychiatrist, author, keynote speaker, and a contributor to The New York Times. Her debut book, REAL SELF-CARE: Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble-Baths Not Included, is an NPR Best Book of 2023 and a national best-seller. Pooja serves as a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at George Washington University School of Medicine, and maintains an active private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout, perfectionism, and disillusionment, as well as clinical conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD. She frequently speaks, advises and consults for organizations on mental health and well-being. Pooja writes the weekly Substack newsletter, Real Self-Care. 

IG: @poojalakshmin
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REAL Self-Care: Burnout Is Not Your Fault & the Way Out with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin 

296. Abby &amp; Amanda’s IFS Therapy Sessions with Richard Schwartz: Why We Do What We Don’t Want to Do

In Part 2 of our Internal Family Systems (IFS) discussion with IFS founder Richard C. Schwartz, we dive into how to recognize and hear from your own parts, how to know when you are being led by your parts instead of your true self, and Abby and Amanda each have a transformative on-air IFS therapy sessions!

Discover: 
-The KEY to uncovering your true self; 
-How to apply IFS to parenting;
-Abby’s revelation during her IFS session about how to finally find self-love; 
-The parts behind Amanda’s journey to satisfaction; and 
-How to have compassion AND Gratitude for your inner critic;

For Part 1 of this conversation, check out: Inside an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Session with Glennon &amp; Richard C. Schwartz 

For our earlier episodes that deal with IFS, check out:
Episode 170. The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and
Episode 252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go 

Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that depathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. 

Social Media: 
Instagram: @internalfamilysystems
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Abby & Amanda’s IFS Therapy Sessions with Richard Schwartz: Why We Do What We Don’t Want to Do

295. Inside an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Session with Glennon &amp; Richard C. Schwartz

You don’t want to miss this riveting deep dive into Internal Family Systems (IFS) – the revolutionary therapy model that Glennon has been using in her recovery – with IFS founder Dr. Richard C. Schwartz. Dr. Schwartz even does an on-air IFS session with Glennon!  

Discover: 
-Finally, the answer to the question “Why do I do what I don’t want to do?” 
-How our parts get exiled or locked away and the path to free them; 
-Why your self-sabotaging parts often believe you are a very little kid and how to update them; and
-The must-hear healing revelation from Glennon’s live therapy session with Dr. Schwartz.

CW: Self-harm, eating disorders

For our prior episodes that deal with IFS, check out:
Episode 170. The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and
Episode 252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go 

Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that depathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School, and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model.

Social Media: 
Instagram: @internalfamilysystems
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Inside an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Session with Glennon & Richard C. Schwartz 

294. What ADHD Feels Like with Jaklin Levine-Pritzker

ADHD coach and mental health advocate, Jaklin Levine-Pritzker, shares about her late-in-life ADHD diagnosis and what ADHD feels like day to day. Jak reveals the unique challenges faced by those – especially women and non-binary people – who don’t fit the stereotypical ADHD mold. We discuss the emotional impacts of ADHD, its benefits, and how people with ADHD can design a life that serves their brain's unique wiring instead of conforming to a neurotypical world.  

Plus, Jak offers valuable advice for relationships between neurotypical and neurodivergent people.

Also, check out: Ep 220 Why So Many Women Don’t Know They are Autistic with Katherine May and Ep 82 Hannah Gadsby: How to Communicate Better.

About Jaklin:
Jaklin Levine-Pritzker is an ADHD coach, mental health advocate, and founder of Authentically ADHD LLC – empowering thousands of ADHD’ers. Jak offers ideas on healing internalized shame and tools to build a life that actually works for the ADHD brain.

She is passionate about normalizing and de-pathologizing what being human means, particularly a neurodivergent (and queer!) human.

IG: @authenticallyadhd
Website: http://www.authenticallyadhd.com
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What ADHD Feels Like with Jaklin Levine-Pritzker

293. The One Question to Finally Let Go of Control with ALOK
Alok Vaid-Menon is back exploring belonging, beauty, community, and the freedom in letting go of the need to control. Buckle up, podquad, this episode will change your life! 

Discover: 


How we can embrace the absurd chaos of life instead of struggling against it;

The way to find energy to keep going through stress of life and politics;

Why ALOK responds to hate with love, not because they want to be the bigger person, but because they want to win;

How to create your own personal beauty playlist; and

The power of being a living contraction, and how to find people who keep letting you change forever.     


After you listen to this episode, be sure to check out our two prior episodes with ALOK: Episode 74 – ALOK: What makes us beautiful? What makes us free? &amp; Episode 75 – ALOK: How do we interrupt trauma? How do we heal?

Alok Vaid-Menon is an internationally acclaimed author, poet, comedian, and public speaker. As a mixed-media artist their work explores themes of trauma, belonging, and the human condition. They are the author of Femme in Public, Beyond the Gender Binary, and Your Wound/My Garden; and the creator of #DeGenderFashion: an initiative to degender fashion and beauty industries. 

Alok is the subject of the documentary short film ALOK, which kicked off this year’s Sundance Film Festival Short Film Program and was directed by filmmaker Alex Hedison and executive produced by Jodie Foster.
 
IG: @alokvmenon
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The One Question to Finally Let Go of Control with ALOK

Episode 292. What These Palestinian &amp; Israeli Activists Need Us to Know: Standing Together’s Sally Abed &amp; Alon-Lee Green 

Sally Abed, an elected leader at Standing Together and Alon-Lee Green, the National co-Director and a founder of Standing Together, talk us through what is happening in Palestine and Israel right now, their own stories of growing up and living through it, and how we can help in their mission to bring liberation, equality, and peace to all who live on the land:

- Why Palestinian liberation and Jewish safety are completely interconnected; 
- Who’s really benefiting from the U.S. sending billions of dollars to the Israeli government;
- The myths Americans have been taught about the Palestinian-Israeli crisis; 
- Why Sally says it is vital that Americans not “sit out” the upcoming elections; and
- How we can help the PEOPLE on the land today to secure a ceasefire, end the Israeli occupation of Palestine, bring the hostages home, and secure peace, liberation, and safety for all. 

On Standing Together: 
Standing Together is a grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel in pursuit of peace, equality, and social and climate justice. While the minority who benefit from the status quo of occupation and economic inequality seek to keep us divided, we know that we — the majority — have far more in common than that which sets us apart. When we stand together, we are strong enough to fundamentally alter the existing socio-political reality. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for all citizens, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Because where there is struggle, there is hope.

- To Learn More: https://www.standing-together.org/en
- To Join their Mission: https://www.standing-together.org/friends 
- To Give:  https://www.standing-together.org/donatehere
- If you can attend their NYC event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fighting-for-peace-and-justice-standing-together-nyc-fundraiser-registration-849180350287 
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What These Palestinian & Israeli Activists Need Us to Know: Standing Together’s Sally Abed & Alon-Lee Green 

Episode 291. Dr. Ford Debrief: Glennon &amp; Amanda Are Fired Up

Glennon, Abby and Amanda dive into their questions, struggles, and reactions to yesterday’s powerful interview with Dr. Christine Blasey Ford – including asking Why Are We Asked to Do the “Right” Thing for a System that Refuses to do Right by Us?


How Amanda opened the dialogue with her kids about consent, sexual violence, and what happens when our leaders do the wrong thing – and how you can do the same;

How those in power exploit our innate willingness to sacrifice; and 

Whether we need to free ourselves from the burden of “Doing the right thing.” 


Don’t miss our interview with Dr. Ford: Episode 290. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out

CW: sexual assault and harassment . 
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Dr. Ford Debrief: Glennon & Amanda are Fired Up!

Episode 290. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out

We all remember the moment we held our breath as Dr. Christine Blasey Ford courageously raised her right hand and spoke her truth in the Kavanaugh hearings.

She takes us back to that moment – what led to it, and what followed:


Why we should stop saying, “trust women” &amp; “I believe you” – and what to do instead;

Why we should shift our faith to the  “other them;” 

How Professor Anita Hill made Dr. Ford’s courage and testimony possible; and

The hope and heartbreak of being a woman in America. 


Please come back tomorrow for a special episode debriefing this powerful conversation!

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford is a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University and a clinical professor and consulting biostatistician at the Stanford University School of Medicine. On September 27, 2018, Dr. Ford testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding her sexual assault in connection with the Committee’s consideration of Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s lifetime confirmation to the United States Supreme Court. Following her testimony, Ford and her family endured constant intimidation, harassment, and death threats forcing them to move out of their home, living in various secure locales with guards. In 2019, she was named one of the 100 most influential people in Time 100.  Dr. Ford’s memoir, ONE WAY BACK, is available today.  

CW: Sexual assault and harassment 
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Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out

Today we are talking about THE SPORTS. Podsquader Naomi calls in – confused, and slightly embarrassed – about how distraught she is over the loss of her new favorite sports team, asking how to handle it and what, exactly, is going on with her? 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda attempt to answer: What IS it about The Sports that makes it so damn emotional?   

We go into:

The psychology of why our bodies are taken over when our favorite team (or our kid!) is playing; 

Glennon’s recent suboptimal moment with a referee, 

Why Amanda truly believes she is has a JOB while watching games; and 

The way Abby creates an “energy shift” to help her kids win.


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289. The Sports: The Kind of Embarrassing Psychology of Winning & Losing

Music legend Alanis Morissette (!) is here to discuss her life as a Highly Sensitive Person and why HSPs so often turn to addiction. Alanis shares strategies for managing the flood of emotions and information that she experiences as a life-long empath.

The normalization of under communication and the impact of being a child of the "white knuckle generation”;

Addiction as a means of self regulating – and how to recognize dysregulation and find healthier coping mechanisms; and

The beauty of getting older and finally recovering the person you were always meant to be.


About Alanis: 
Alanis Morissette is one of the most influential singer-songwriter-musicians and artists. Her deeply expressive music and performances have earned multiple awards – including 7 Grammy® Awards. She has sold over 75 million albums worldwide and was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and The Canadian Songwriter Hall of Fame. 

Her debut album JAGGED LITTLE PILL, was followed by nine more eclectic and critically acclaimed albums. Her artistic impact can also be seen via the two-time Tony Award winning “Jagged Little Pill, the Musical,” which continues to tour globally. 

Alanis is also a dedicated supporter and student of spiritual, psychological, and physical wholeness which includes addiction and trauma recovery, female empowerment, and the advancement of a more “whole” approach to children’s education. Her podcast “Conversation with Alanis Morissette,” features conversations covering a wide range of psychosocial topics extending from spirituality to developmentalism to art.  

TW: @Alanis
IG: @alanis
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288. Alanis Morissette On Highly Sensitive People & Empaths

What is happening in America – where apparently women who don’t want to be pregnant have to be pregnant, and women who want to be pregnant have to not be pregnant?!?

In today’s conversation with Jessica Yellin, former chief White House Correspondent and founder of News Not Noise, we discuss exactly what happened in the recent Alabama ruling that halted IVF treatments, what it means for access to fertility treatments, which states could be next – and how it is all an attack on reproductive rights. We discuss the fetal personhood movement’s trajectory that would jeopardize birth control and even same-sex marriage.  

We also talk about how to stay motivated and involved in these collective struggles (and the election season ahead) while also taking care of yourself. 

Another must-listen on what is going on with Reproductive Justice in America – where we are, how we got here, and four things we need to do to get out of here, listen to Episode 108: ABORTION: Family Meeting on Four Things to Do Next


About Jessica: 
Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. 
Follow Jessica on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. 
Also, don’t miss her nervous-system regulating You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack.
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287. Alabama IVF Ruling: How to Stop the Attacks on Infertility Treatments & Reproductive Health with Jessica Yellin

Today, Glennon shares a very special conversation with two of her favorite people on the planet: Brandi Carlile and Tish Melton. In this celebration of music, collaboration, friendship, and community, they take you behind the scenes of how Brandi and Tish created Tish’s debut EP, When We're Older.  

Discover: 
-What it’s really like having Brandi Carlile as your mentor; 
- The happy 3:00 AM accidents that found their way into the album; 
- Why we need to take girls’ emotions seriously; 
-What it finally took for Glennon and Tish to – just recently – realize they are two different people; and 
-Why we should stop justifying who we are.  

Download/Stream Tish’s debut EP, When We’re Older, Here: https://ffm.to/whenwereolder 

For our other We Can Do Hard Things conversations with Brandi Carlile, check out:
Episode 76. Brandi Carlile: Live From My Couch!
Episode 77. Double Date with Brandi &amp; Catherine Carlile!

Brandi Carlile is an eleven-time GRAMMY Award-winning singer, songwriter, performer, producer, #1 New York Times Bestselling author and activist – one of music's most respected voices. Aside from the production of her own work, Carlile has been increasingly in-demand as a record producer – helming albums by Tanya Tucker, Lucius, The Secret Sisters, Brandy Clark, and Tish Melton. Tanya Tucker’s 2019 album While I’m Livin’, co-produced by Carlile with Shooter Jennings, won the GRAMMY for Best Country Album. Last year saw her production talents excel with new album projects from Brandy Clark and Joni Mitchell – both of which took home wins at this year's GRAMMY Awards – as well as her cover of “Home” for the last season of Ted Lasso and her version of “Closer To Fine” with wife Catherine Carlile for Barbie The Album (Best Weekend Ever Edition). Carlile has collaborated closely with Joni Mitchell, Elton John, The Highwomen, Soundgarden, Alicia Keys, Marcus Mumford, Dolly Parton and more. When not on the road, she spends time in her home studio in rural Washington state where she and Catherine raise their two daughters, Evangeline and Elijah.

Tish Melton: 18-year-old singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist who wears her incredibly perceptive heart on her sleeve. “As a songwriter, I’ve realized you can just tell stories,” she says. “They don’t have to be big, dramatic moments. Personally, I learned how to write songs by simply sharing my journey and feeling how I naturally do.” For her debut EP When We’re Older, she has teamed up with eleven-time GRAMMY® Award-winning artist Brandi Carlile, who is a mentor to Melton and joins as producer. Their musical chemistry is undeniable, rooted in mutual respect, shared taste, and an appreciation for good songwriting and musical catharsis. Inspired by the clear-eyed storytelling and indie rock influences of Taylor Swift and boygenius, Melton chronicles teenage relationships – from the lonely pain of first love, unrequited love, friend crushes, joyous friendships, and the pain, fear and excitement of becoming an adult. She tells these stories as she’s living them, with a sharp eye for detail and lyricism that brings them to life. Her work has received praise from Variety, V Magazine, FLOOD, and Magnet Magazine. When We’re Older is a bold and generous opening statement from a newcomer who is destined to share her stories, and it’s available to stream or download now.
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286. Brandi Carlile & Tish Melton: Behind the Scenes of Making Tish’s New EP 

Lindsay C. Gibson, is back again to answer even more of your questions about the emotionally immature people in your life! 

Discover: 

How to know if your family member is a narcissist or emotionally immature + the major difference between the two;

What to do if you realize that you are emotionally immature and the best ways to build up your emotional capacities; 

A gentle way forward if you love your family member, but find yourself healthier when you are not around them; and

Abby’s new strategy for self-care in complex relationships with family and how you can implement the same tactic in your own life!

To learn more about the emotionally immature people in your life, check out the last episode – ,How to Deal with Emotionally Immature Partners &amp; In-Laws with Lindsay C. Gibson
– as well as Episode 263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. GIbson and Episode 264. Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay C. Gibson


About Lindsay:
Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. Her books can be found at http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html, and her website is http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/.
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285. Narcissism vs. Emotional Immaturity: How to Set Boundaries with Family & Work on YOU with Lindsay C. Gibson

Lindsay C. Gibson is back by popular demand to answer YOUR questions on the emotionally immature people in your life. 

Discover: 

How to protect your energy when in relationship with emotionally immature people; 

Why you might want to pay attention to when and where you use the word “navigate” to describe your relationship with someone;

Practical tools to set boundaries with emotionally immature in-laws (plus a simple practice to get you and your partner on the same page); 

Why neglect in romantic relationships is so deeply painful and what to do about it; and

The best thing to do when partnered with someone who has emotional “Walls” up. (It might surprise you!)


Check out our past episodes with Lindsay Gibson: 
Episode 263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. GIbson &amp; Episode 264. Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay C. Gibson.

About Lindsay:
Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. Her books can be found at http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html, and her website is http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/.
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284. How to Deal with Emotionally Immature Partners & In-Laws with Lindsay C. Gibson

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda respond to a listener’s question about how to find yourself when you’re at your lowest – diving into how to embrace and move through sadness, the gifts of the low times, and what they tell us about our future selves.

Discover: 

Why feeling anything depends on an understanding of its opposite;

The true colors of sadness; 

Why Abby has come to believe that sadness is “kind of cool,”&amp; how she’s navigating her current grief; 

How to find joy and love yourself the most through a time of sadness; and

Why sadness is an open floor plan. 


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283. How Glennon Transforms Sadness into Power

In this episode, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda dive into the deeper meaning of their individual relationships with 'stuff', asking: Do we have stuff, or does stuff have us?
Discover: 


Sister and Glennon’s extremely different views on stuff and what it might mean about their subconscious mind and yours!

A test to find out if you are a Keeper or a Clearer;

Gen Z’s take on stuff…does it reveal a more evolved spiritual perspective?  

A simple visualization to help you decide what your stuff REALLY means to you; and

The unbelievable (but true) Storage Wars story that forever changed Abby’s relationship to stuff.


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282. Your “Stuff” Personality Type: What Being a Keeper or Clearer Says About You

In this beautiful episode, we hear Amanda’s incredible breakthrough in quieting her brain, and how she finally heard from Love with the help of Elizabeth Gilbert.  

Discover: 

The breathtaking and very odd way that Love ultimately showed up for Amanda;  

Taylor &amp; Travis’s love lesson for Amanda 

How to avoid what Liz Gilbert calls “taking a monkey survey” when making important life decisions;

The “big thing” we are all missing &amp; how it makes us dissatisfied with everything else; and 

How to get your brain and perfectionism to step back so your greater wisdom can speak. 


On Liz:
Elizabeth Gilbert is author of the international bestseller, EAT PRAY LOVE, which has been translated into over thirty languages, and sold over 12 million copies worldwide. The book became so popular that Time Magazine named Elizabeth as one of the 100 most influential people in the world. In 2010, Elizabeth published a follow-up to EAT PRAY LOVE called COMMITTED—an instant a #1 New York Times Bestseller, as well as BIG MAGIC: CREATIVE LIVING BEYOND FEAR. She is the author of three novels: STERN MEN, THE SIGNATURE OF ALL THINGS, and CITY OF GIRLS. Elizabeth is the creator of the Onward Book Club, which takes place on her Instagram via a live chat, as a way of spotlighting, studying, and celebrating the work of Black women authors. You can also find her on Substack and subscribe to her newsletter: “Letters From Love with Elizabeth Gilbert.” Subscribe here: https://elizabethgilbert.substack.com/ 

Don’t miss Abby and Glennon also sharing their Letters from Love on We Can Do Hard Things episodes 268 and 269:  
Elizabeth Gilbert On Her Most Important Daily Practice (Abby) 
Glennon Shares Her Love Letter with Liz Gilbert 
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281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda battle over their very different views of Valentine’s Day, and absolutely shock the pod squad with a MASSIVE Surprise at the end—stick around, you do not want to miss it! 

Discover: 


Abby, Amanda and Glennon’s clashing perspectives on V-Day and what your take says about YOU;

The simple tool to get exactly what you want, whether you’re in a relationship or not;

How did Valentine’s Day start and is it satisfying to anyone?; and

Possibly the most exciting thing that has ever happened on the pod! Listen until the end for a MASSIVE surprise you don’t want to miss!


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280. Valentine’s Day: You Must Listen to This–Huge Surprise!

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda answer your questions and attempt to do ‘easy’ things – sharing about their personal lives and on topics like parenthood, personal growth, and playfulness. 

Discover: 


Why Amanda’s declaring a “Rebuilding Year,” what it means, and whether you might want one too;

Abby’s advice on how to unlock playfulness;

Why trying to be ‘good’ is a waste of time and what to strive toward instead; and 

What your preferred roller coaster seat reveals about your personality.


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279. Amanda’s “Rebuilding Year” + Playfulness + Your Questions 

Ruby Warrington joins us to discuss the often overlooked experiences of women who do not have children - by choice or circumstance.

How the deeply ingrained belief that womanhood is synonymous with motherhood can be a tool to suppress women's sexuality and autonomy. 

The reasons women may choose to be child-free – and the myriad ways women can define their lives and identities outside of motherhood; and 

Why we need community and conversation for everyone on the motherhood spectrum.

For the episode referenced by our Pod Squader, check out: 44. Gabrielle Union: Infertility, Bonus Parents &amp; Free Families.

About Ruby: 
Ruby Warrington is a British-born author, editor, podcaster, and the founder of Numinous Books. She is the author of Women Without Kids: The Revolutionary Rise of an Unsung Sisterhood. Recognized as a true thought leader, Ruby has the unique ability to identify issues that are destined to become part of the cultural narrative. Her previous books include Material Girl, Mystical World; Sober Curious; and The Sober Curious Reset, and her work has been featured in global outlets, including the New York Times, The Guardian, and Good Morning America. She lives in Miami.

IG: @rubywarrington
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278. The Power of Child-Free Women with Ruby Warrington 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda take you behind the scenes into the magic of their recent adventure at Brandi Carlile and Catherine Carlile’s GIRLS JUST WANNA Weekend in Mexico. 

Discover: 


Glennon’s triumphant – gyrating – return to the stage (and why it scared her nephew); 

The breathtaking moment between Tish and the Pod Squad that brought the house down;

The magic of centering: why every marginalized community needs its space;

How to recreate the magic of LETTING GO and being out of control; Plus: 

Amanda’s pantless debut!

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277. What Happened Last Weekend: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun & We DID! 

Brilliant actor, director, and Schitt’s Creek co-creator, Dan Levy, is here diving into the heart and complexity of friendship, grief, creativity, and the power of curiosity. 

Discover: 


Abby’s recent grief and how Dan’s new movie, Good Grief, impacted her;

Glennon, Abby, Amanda and Dan attempt to answer, “Where did they go?;”

The one simple question that started the Schitt’s Creek revolution; and

How to start investing in the friendships that will sustain us.  



About Dan: 
Daniel Levy is an Emmy-award winning creator and actor who has built his career telling vibrant and comedic stories. Levy's directorial debut Good Grief, an original film that he wrote, produced, and stars in, is available now for streaming on Netflix.  
He is best known for his work on one of the most beloved shows on television, Schitt’s Creek, which he co-created with his father Eugene Levy, and which garnered countless awards, including nine Emmy® wins for its sixth and final season. Levy is also the founder of DL Eyewear, a gender-fluid eyewear brand that gives back through its support of small businesses and entrepreneurs located in historically disadvantaged communities. 
Watch Good Grief: https://www.netflix.com/title/81462549
IG: @instadanjlevy
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276. Dan Levy’s Good News: No One Knows What They’re Doing

Today, we’re attempting to solve birthdays. For most of us, it’s a complicated day full of mixed emotions, expectations, and comparisons.

Why birthdays have become a set up for disappointment;

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share their best and worst birthday stories; and

Strategies for making birthdays better and celebrating each other outside of that one day.


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 275. Why Do Birthdays Bring So Many Feels??

Dr. Becky Kennedy is back to discuss something rarely talked about: “mom rage” – and the crucial connection between anger and our unmet needs. 

What leads to these explosive moments – and why it's more common than we might think; 

How understanding the story behind the rage moment can help us figure out what led to it and what we need. 

The impact of society's shaming of anger in women; and

Tips for managing our anger, recognizing our needs, and taking care of ourselves.

About Dr. Becky: 
Dr. Becky Kennedy is a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and mom of three – who’s rethinking the way we raise our children – and named “The Millennial Parenting Whisperer” by TIME Magazine. Dr. Becky is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be and founder of the Good Inside Membership platform, a hub with Dr. Becky’s complete parenting content collection all in one place. Dr. Becky hosts Good Inside with Dr Becky, a chart-topping podcast with over 20M downloads. In 2023, Dr. Becky delivered a TED Talk in which she shares “the single most important parenting strategy”.

TW: @goodinside
IG: @drbeckyatgoodinside
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274. What Is Our Rage Telling Us? with Dr. Becky Kennedy

Author Laura McKowen is back to share the nine essential lessons she learned in recovery, from accepting that it's not your fault to the importance of seeking community and reaching out for help.

What it means to take responsibility and why accountability leads to freedom;

How we’re all capable of everything – and how to get unstuck when you’re feeling bad about yourself; and 

The importance of being seen in your pain – and the transformative potential of helping others do the same.

About Laura: 
Laura is the author of the bestselling memoir, We Are The Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life and Push Off From Here: Nine Essential Truths to Get You Through Life (and Everything Else).

She has written for The New York Times and has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Atlantic, the TODAY show, and more. In 2020, she founded The Luckiest Club, a global sobriety support community.

Laura lives with her daughter and partner on the North Shore of Boston.

IG: @laura_mckowen
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273. The Nine Truths That Just Might Heal Us with Laura McKowen

Author Laura McKowen shares her incredible hard-earned wisdom about how to get sober and how to live with dignity, power, and peace. 

Laura shares:

Her gut-wrenching rock bottom moment that eventually led her to sobriety. 

How healing often begins when we are forced to confront our deepest traumas. 

The "Bigger Yes" – and why it's not about achieving grand aspirations, but discovering the beauty in simply being who you are. 

Simple acts of self-care and the importance of stillness for self-discovery. 

The two fundamental questions everyone needs to ask themselves: "How do I feel?" and "What do I want?"

The special vitriol for mothers who struggle with addiction in a culture that tells mothers to drink in countless ways.

About Laura: 
Laura is the author of the bestselling memoir, We Are The Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life and Push Off From Here: Nine Essential Truths to Get You Through Life (and Everything Else).

She has written for The New York Times and has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Atlantic, the TODAY show, and more. In 2020, she founded The Luckiest Club, a global sobriety support community.

Laura lives with her daughter and partner on the North Shore of Boston.

IG: @laura_mckowen
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272. Why Sober Life is the Luckiest Life with Laura McKowen

Three soccer legends and Glennon go on an epic double date! Our beloved Pod Squader, Christen Press, is back with Tobin Heath to share their revolutionary reimagining of what life and love look like when you protect the sacred – and the resistance in doing things quietly and privately, especially within the queer community.

How to be free and independent inside a relationship – and Tobin’s seven-year contract idea; 

Christen and Tobin describe each other as soccer players and as people outside of sport – and how they handle conflict; and

Why they say, “Don’t look at us, look at our work” – and their current mission to build a sports media house for women. 

For our episode with Christen, check out 132. Christen Press: How to Get Your Bliss Back

About Christen: 
Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion, two-time Olympic gold medalist, and an equal pay pioneer. She is one of the all-time top 10 goalscorers on the U.S. Women’s National Team and currently plays for Angel City FC. Christen led the USWNT's historic achievement of Equal Pay and served as the leader of the USWNT Players Association for 2 years. Christen is Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, a values-led brand that exists to reimagine the way women are seen and experienced in sports. She sits on the Board of Grassroots Soccer, a non-profit organization that uses the power of soccer to provide mentors, information, and health services to at-risk youth in Africa.

TW: @ChristenPress
IG: @christenpress

About Tobin: 
Tobin Heath is a two-time World Cup Champion and two-time Olympic gold medalist, known as one of the most skillful and entertaining players in the game. Throughout her club career, Heath has played for PSG, the Portland Thorns, Manchester United, and Arsenal. Tobin has taken her vision, leadership, and creativity off the pitch and into her roles as Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, and host of the critically-acclaimed show: The RE—CAP Show World Cup Edition.

TW: @TobinHeath
IG: @tobinheath
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271. Christen Press & Tobin Heath Protect What Matters Most 

Amanda shares the profound impact that being open to giving and receiving help has had recently in her life. Glennon discusses why parenting teenagers can be isolating. 


How the act of asking for help goes beyond vulnerability—it's a gateway to deeper connection with others. 

Why our worthiness isn't tied to independence—but rather to our ability to build a web of support; and 

The beauty that comes when we celebrate and acknowledge the interconnected world around us.


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270. The Unexpected Way Amanda Built Community

Glennon FINALLY UNDERSTANDS FORGIVENESS! She reads a gorgeous letter about her newfound, hard-earned understanding of forgiveness and it helps us all breathe deeper.

What happened when Glennon finally surrendered to the “Letters From Love” experiment.
 
The dance of forgetting and remembering – a cycle that holds the essence of what's worth living for;

How to overcome fear and blocks that get in the way of creative expression; and

Liz challenges Amanda to try doing something without being attached to the outcome.

About Elizabeth: 
Elizabeth Gilbert is author of the international bestseller, EAT PRAY LOVE, which has been translated into over thirty languages, and sold over 12 million copies worldwide. The book became so popular that Time Magazine named Elizabeth as one of the 100 most influential people in the world. In 2010, Elizabeth published a follow-up to EAT PRAY LOVE called COMMITTED—an instant a #1 New York Times Bestseller, as well as BIG MAGIC: CREATIVE LIVING BEYOND FEAR. She is author of two novels: THE SIGNATURE OF ALL THINGS, and CITY OF GIRLS. And she is the creator of the Onward Book Club, which takes place on her Instagram via a live chat, as a way of spotlighting, studying, and celebrating the work of Black women authors. 

You can also find her on Substack and subscribe to her newsletter: “Letters From Love with Elizabeth Gilbert”.

TW: @GilbertLiz
IG: @elizabeth_gilbert_writer
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269. Glennon Shares Her Love Letter with Liz Gilbert 

Liz Gilbert returns to share with us her transformative practice of planning her days and her life by writing two-way letters to love every morning.

 Why Liz shaved her head!

The unwavering presence that’s accompanied Liz her whole life;

The concept of "two-way prayer" – and how it can help us find the kindest, wisest version of ourselves.

How to find solace and guidance in creating a higher power of your own understanding; and 

Abby shares her own letter on self-love and acceptance, a declaration that she will not abandon herself.

About Elizabeth: 
Elizabeth Gilbert is author of the international bestseller, EAT PRAY LOVE, which has been translated into over thirty languages, and sold over 12 million copies worldwide. The book became so popular that Time Magazine named Elizabeth as one of the 100 most influential people in the world. In 2010, Elizabeth published a follow-up to EAT PRAY LOVE called COMMITTED—an instant a #1 New York Times Bestseller, as well as BIG MAGIC: CREATIVE LIVING BEYOND FEAR. She is author of two novels: THE SIGNATURE OF ALL THINGS, and CITY OF GIRLS. And she is the creator of the Onward Book Club, which takes place on her Instagram via a live chat, as a way of spotlighting, studying, and celebrating the work of Black women authors. 

You can also find her on Substack and subscribe to her newsletter: “Letters From Love with Elizabeth Gilbert”.

TW: @GilbertLiz
IG: @elizabeth_gilbert_writer
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268. Elizabeth Gilbert On Her Most Important Daily Practice

Dr. Becky Kennedy returns to walk us through the #1 strategy for all relationships: REPAIR. She teaches us how to repair by revisiting hard moments to infuse them with love, connection, and new perspectives – and what happens when we don’t repair (it’s not good). Dr. Becky highlights how lack of repair can traumatize us by leaving us alone to make meaning of disconnection. 

Plus, we deep dive into the difference between repair and apology, and why it can be so hard to apologize (particularly for Abby to the kids and for Glennon to Abby).

About Dr. Becky: 
Dr. Becky Kennedy is a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and mom of three – who’s rethinking the way we raise our children – and named “The Millennial Parenting Whisperer” by TIME Magazine. Dr. Becky is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be and founder of the Good Inside Membership platform, a hub with Dr. Becky’s complete parenting content collection all in one place. Dr. Becky hosts Good Inside with Dr Becky, a chart-topping podcast with over 20M downloads. In 2023, Dr. Becky delivered a TED Talk in which she shares “the single most important parenting strategy”.

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267. The #1 Relationship Strategy with Dr. Becky Kennedy

Just in time for the holidays: adrienne maree brown and Autumn Brown join us for a heart-opening, mind-bending conversation about sisterhood, justice, family, and how to love ourselves and people with different values simultaneously. 

Why their family holidays used to end in explosions – and the strategy they used to transform family time into peaceful respites.

Their intentional practice for creating a more beautiful way of spending time together - including their weekly “Sister Check-ins.” 

What their mother did as children to protect their dignity, and what they are doing now to protect hers.

Their beautiful vision for the future – and invitation to all of us to go with them. 
For our conversation with adrienne, check out 239. Why Are We Never Satisfied? With adrienne maree brown. 
About adrienne: 
adrienne maree brown grows healing ideas in public through writing, music, and podcasts. adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice as ideas, frameworks, networks and practices for transformation. adrienne’s work is informed by 25 years of social and environmental justice facilitation primarily supporting Black liberation. adrienne is the author/editor of Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds; Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good; Grievers; and Maroons.adrienne lives in Durham, NC.

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About Autumn: 
Autumn Brown is a mother, organizer, theologian, artist, and facilitator. The youngest child of an interracial marriage, rooted in the complex lineages of counter-culturalism and the military industrial complex, Autumn is a queer, mixed-race Black woman who identifies closely with her African and European lineages, and a gifted facilitator who grounds her work in healing from the trauma of oppression. 
Autumn is a facilitator with the Anti-Oppression Resource &amp; Training Alliance (AORTA), a worker-owned cooperative devoted to strengthening movements for social justice and a solidarity economy through political education, training, and planning. Prior to joining AORTA, Autumn served as the Executive Director of RECLAIM!, a non-profit that works to increase access to mental health support so that queer and trans youth may reclaim their lives from oppression in all its forms.
Autumn co-hosts the podcast "How to Survive the End of the World" with her sister, adrienne maree brown. She lives in Minneapolis with her three brilliant children.

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266. How to Love Family When You’re Divided On Beliefs with adrienne maree brown & Autumn Brown

When was the first time you were made aware of your body or made to feel ashamed of your body? As promised, poet and author, Megan Falley, returns and blows Glennon’s mind with her explorations into the complexities of body, gender, and love. 

Megan reflects on her earliest memories of body shame and the lessons she learned about love from her family (and how she’s able to hold both the good and the bad at once). Megan shares about her summers at “fat camp,” her decision to leave an abusive relationship, and finding love with poet Andrea Gibson that redefined for her what it means to truly love and be loved. At the end, she tells a story that Glennon decides is the best description she’s heard of what forgiveness might actually be. 

For our Andrea Gibson and double date episodes, check out: 
Ep 245 An Unforgettable Double Date with Andrea Gibson &amp; Megan Falley
Ep 215 The Bravest Conversation We’ve Had: Andrea Gibson

About Megan: 
Megan Falley is a nationally-ranked slam poet and the author of three full-length collections of poetry – most recently her book “Drive Here and Devastate Me”. Since transitioning to writing prose, excerpts from her memoir-in-progress have won several first- and second-place national prizes. She runs an online writing workshop called “Poems That Don’t Suck” which has been heralded as “a degree’s worth of education in 5 short weeks.”

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265. Megan Falley Knows What Love Is

Author and clinical psychologist, Lindsay C. Gibson, is back to share practical steps to disentangle ourselves from emotionally immature people (EIPs), emphasizing the importance of repetition, persistence, and consistency in communication as well as boundary setting.

Lindsay addresses questions about being in relationship with EIPs including: 

Are people raised by EIPs prone to entering relationships with similar dynamics?

What happens when we try to have conversations or engage in conflict with EIPs?

How do we ACTUALLY HEAL as adult children of EIPs and maintain healthy detachment?

For Part 1 of our conversation, check out: 263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. Gibson.

Lindsay C. Gibson’s books can be found here:  http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html

About Lindsay:
Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. 

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264. Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay C. Gibson

Author and clinical psychologist, Lindsay C. Gibson, helps us identify the characteristics of emotionally immature people (EIPs) like ego-centrism, lack of empathy, and fear of emotional intimacy.

Lindsay shares the effects of being raised by emotionally immature parents, mapping out two routes children often take – becoming internalizers or externalizers – and how that plays out in adult relationships and professional lives. 

Emphasizing the importance of self-compassion, Lindsay explains how often the most important step toward healing is identifying the EIPs in our lives. 

Lindsay C. Gibson’s books can be found here:  http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html

About Lindsay:
Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. 

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263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. Gibson

Aubrey Gordon – activist, author, and teacher – talks to us about anti-fat bias and the way it manifests in employment disparities, our healthcare system, our dinner table conversations, and our parenting. She teaches us about “concern trolling” and other ways anti-fatness hides inside of our “do-gooding.” Sharing her personal experiences, Aubrey illuminates the subtle and not-so-subtle ways that our culture perpetuates anti-fatness – and examines the roots of thinness as a system of supremacy. She points us toward a world where we are all safer and freer. 

Plus, a heart-piercing voicemail from a concerned Pod Squader about their 11-year-old daughter's body image struggles.

For more information on why BMI is horseshit, check out Ep 10 OUR BODIES: Why are we at war with them and can we ever make peace?

About Aubrey:
Aubrey Gordon is an author, columnist, and cohost of the Maintenance Phase podcast. She is the author of the New York Times and Indie bestseller “You Just Need to Lose Weight” and 19 Other Myths About Fat People, and What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat. Her work has been published in The New York Times, Vox, SELF, Health, Glamour and more. Aubrey is also the subject of the new documentary film YOUR FAT FRIEND, which explores her journey from anonymous blogger to bestselling author and activist.

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262. Aubrey Gordon: On Freedom from Anti-Fatness

Author and artist, Jenny Odell, discusses how to break from the attention economy long enough to feel fully alive in a culture obsessed with productivity. She shares stories of her encounters with nature, how to be creative instead of productive, how to be less useful in order to survive, and the real reason for art and rest. This is a deep dive about how to stay human in a world that wants us to become machines.

About Jenny: 
Jenny Odell is a multidisciplinary artist and the New York Times bestselling author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy and Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock. Her writing has appeared in The Atlantic, The New York Times, Sierra magazine, and other publications. She lives in Oakland, California.

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261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

Author and cultural observer, Roxane Gay, examines the landscape of the internet and our relationship with it. We discuss the line between constructive criticism and online toxicity; how to decide when to speak up and when to stay quiet; and how to stay human and allow redemption in an online world that demands perfection.

Plus, a breakdown of our shared unguilty pleasure: Naked Attraction.

About Roxane: 
Roxane Gay is the author of several books, including Ayiti, An Untamed State, New York Times bestsellers Bad Feminist and Hunger; and the national bestseller Difficult Women.

Her writing appears in Best American Mystery Stories, Best American Short Stories, Best Sex Writing, A Public Space, McSweeney’s, Tin House, Oxford American, American Short Fiction, Virginia Quarterly Review, and many others. She is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. 

She also has a newsletter, “The Audacity” – and once had a podcast, The Roxane Gay Agenda.

Her latest book, Opinions, is available now.

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260. Roxane Gay: Should We Quit Social Media? 

How do we bring our full selves into our relationships without fear of rejection? 

Today, Abby shares more about what’s been happening in her life since she’s stopped “bright siding” including powerful truth-telling she’s unleashed in business and her family of origin.

Glennon shares how Abby embracing her full emotions has led to deeper intimacy and connection, and a feeling of “un-loneliness” in their partnership – the opposite of what Abby feared might happen. 

Plus, we discuss how toxic positivity and polarized dynamics in relationships can lead to emotional disconnection and loneliness. 

For the first part of our conversation, check out 258. Abby Asks, “Why Can’t I Love Myself?”
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259. The Cure for Emotional Isolation

Abby opens up about starting therapy and the work she’s been doing to unearth and express uncomfortable emotions like anger and sadness. She shares her long-held fear that if she feels and expresses her full self, people will leave her.

In a profound moment, Abby shares a deep longing to truly love herself. She explains that this love has been clouded by messages she’s received since childhood which have led to difficulty trusting others, equating anger with not being okay, and a feeling like something is “wrong” with her. 

For the episode Abby mentions with Suzanne Stabile, check out Fix Your Most Important Relationships with the Enneagram: Suzanne Stabile
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258. Abby Asks, “Why Can’t I Love Myself?”

Where does all our suffering come from and how can we free ourselves?

Pastor, author, and speaker, Nadia Bolz-Weber, discusses how she finally became healed and whole enough to choose romantic love from freedom instead of desperation. With her characteristic raw honesty, Nadia shares that the secret to her healing has been “honestly, a lot of pain.”

Plus, Nadia leads Abby to a heartbreaking, cathartic moment of clarity – and shares a blessing that she wrote for Abby and all queer people.

About Nadia:
Nadia Bolz-Weber is an ordained Lutheran Pastor; founder of House for All Sinners &amp; Saints in Denver; host of The Confessional podcast; and author of three NYT bestselling memoirs: Pastrix, Accidental Saints, and SHAMELESS. Nadia writes and speaks about personal failings, recovery, grace, faith, and really whatever the hell else she wants to.

She always sits in the corner with the other weirdos, and she can be found a couple days a week inside the Denver women’s prison where she is a volunteer chaplain.

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257. How to Finally Forgive with Nadia Bolz-Weber

Priya Parker is here to discuss what Glennon called “the most important thing in the world” – connection – and how to make our time with other people have more of it. She teaches us: 

How – whether it’s a wedding or a retirement party – you can create new gathering rituals that forge truer, deeper relationships;

Why the outcome of every gathering is decided before anyone steps in the room; and 

Why so many of us hate parties – and what to do about it. 

For the The Art of Gathering online course giveaway go to priyaparker.com/hardthings

About Priya:
Priya Parker is a conflict facilitator, strategic advisor, international speaker, and acclaimed author of The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters and host of the podcast TOGETHER APART. She is the creator and host of The Art of Gathering digital course, about how to make meaning with and for our people. She lives in Brooklyn, New York with her husband and two children.

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256. How to Host a Magical Gathering with Priya Parker 

Glennon tells three stories that reveal how recovery from anorexia has changed who she is and how she experiences the world.

Together in G’s home, recording for the first time, Abby and Amanda respond with their reflections and the impacts that G’s recovery work has had on the entire family.
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255. Glennon on One Year of Recovery!

In this special episode, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda sit down with icon Dolly Parton for a heartfelt conversation about how to start something new at 77, how she mothers the world, and how she broke her own heart when Elvis asked to record her hit song. 

Plus, the advice Dolly would give to Glennon and Abby’s daughter, Tish, as she enters the music business. 

About Dolly: 
Dolly Parton is the most honored and revered female country singer-songwriter of all time and was recently inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Achieving 27 RIAA-certified gold, platinum, and multi-platinum awards, she has had 26 songs reach #1 on the Billboard country charts, a record for a female artist. Parton became the first country artist honored as Grammy MusiCares Person of the Year.

She has 48 career Top 10 country albums, a record for any artist, and 110 career-charted singles over the past 50+ years. On October 17th she is releasing her second coffee table book in a trilogy called “Behind The Seams: My Life in Rhinestones” and on November 17th her highly anticipated 30-song rock album, “Rockstar.”

To date, Parton has donated over 213 million books to children around the world with her Imagination Library. Her children's book, Coat of Many Colors, was dedicated to the Library of Congress to honor the Imagination Library's 100 millionth book donation. 

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254. Dolly Parton: How to Make Decisions (Even If They Break Your Heart)

Brilliant life coach, Martha Beck, works her magic for our Pod Squad.

In this treasure trove of profound insight and practical guidance, Martha teaches us how to find purpose in midlife, how to use our longing as a map, and how to know for sure if what we have is real love. 

If you’d like to go back and listen to the episodes mentioned in today’s conversation, check out episodes: 

252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go
238. How to De-Stress: Relaxation Intervention for Amanda (and You)!
121. Martha Beck &amp; Rowan Mangan: Polyamory &amp; Throuple Life
67. How to Get More Joy with Martha Beck
66. How to Come Home to Yourself with Martha Beck

About Martha:
Dr. Martha Beck is a bestselling author, life coach, and speaker – offering powerful, practical, and entertaining teachings that help people improve every aspect of their lives. She is known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality.

For over two decades she has been, in the words of NPR and USA Today, “the best-known life coach in America.” Her published works include several self-help books and memoirs, including New York Times and international bestsellers Finding Your Own North Star, The Joy Diet, and Expecting Adam.

Martha’s most recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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253. Is it Real Love or Spider Love? With Martha Beck

In this incredibly raw episode, Martha Beck coaches Amanda through a transformative, therapeutic session to help heal her overfunctioning, resentment, and burnout. Martha uncovers the different parts of Amanda that have existed inside her since childhood – and invites them to speak and then finally rest into peace, joy, and enoughness.  

If you’d like to go back and listen to episodes referenced in today’s conversation, check out: 
238. How to De-Stress: Relaxation Intervention for Amanda (and You)!.
170. The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy
67. How to Get More Joy with Martha Beck
66. How to Come Home to Yourself with Martha Beck

About Martha:
Dr. Martha Beck is a bestselling author, life coach, and speaker – offering powerful, practical, and entertaining teachings that help people improve every aspect of their lives. She is known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality.

For over two decades she has been, in the words of NPR and USA Today, “the best-known life coach in America.” Her published works include several self-help books and memoirs, including New York Times and international bestsellers Finding Your Own North Star, and Expecting Adam.

Martha’s most recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go

Singer, songwriter, and instrumentalist, Allison Russell, shares her incredible life story and teaches us how she healed from abuse through music, sisterhood, and returning to her body. This hour is a soul-stirring reminder of the life-saving, cycle-breaking power of truth telling, art, and love. 

About Allison:
Allison Russell has spent her career in multiple bands, including Po’ Girl, Our Native Daughters and Birds of Chicago. After a career spent as a gifted multi-instrumentalist, backing numerous other artists, she finally dared to release her solo project in 2021. She made her Opry debut and appeared at the Country Music Hall of Fame and performed at the 2022 GRAMMY’s Premiere Ceremony.

In addition to her four GRAMMY nominations, she has earned three 2022 Americana Award nominations and a win for Album of the Year, two International Folk Music Award wins, a 2022 Juno nomination for ‘Songwriter of the Year,’ and her first-ever Juno Award win for Contemporary Roots Album of the Year. Russell received two 2021 Americana Awards nominations, won three Canadian Folk Music Awards, two UK Americana Music Awards, and more. She was recently nominated for Song of the Year and Artist of the Year for the 2023 Americana Awards. 

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251. How to Break Cycles with Allison Russell

Today, Angela Chen teaches us how understanding asexuality helps us understand ourselves and the true meaning of sex. Angela describes: 


The misconception that blocks us from fully understanding our own sexuality;

Why your sexuality is a relationship between YOU and YOU; 

How there are MANY reasons people have sex. (Glennon says sexual attraction only accounts for 5% of her sexual experiences.); and

The shame underlying compulsory sexuality – and how to stop apologizing for not wanting sex. 


And a question for anyone seeing themselves in asexuality: What would this label free you from?

About Angela:
Angela Chen is a journalist and editor. She is the author of Ace: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex, which was named one of the best books of 2020 by NPR, Electric Literature, and Them. Her reporting and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, The Guardian, National Geographic, Paris Review, and more. 

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250. Why Do We Have Sex? Asexuality with Angela Chen

Who do we go to for advice? And do we really even WANT advice — or just a good listener?

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda tell us who they each go to when they don’t know what to do next — and offer their best advice to Pod Squaders dealing with loneliness and the unexpected jealousy of their partner's affection for a pet.
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249. The Best Advice We’ve Got on Loneliness & Jealousy

Amanda shares the one proven way to get the truth from someone – plus:


Why Glennon calls her lying style “The Puppeteer” – and why you’ll never know what Amanda’s really feeling. 

Amanda defends our right to lie, and debunks myths about how we can tell if someone is lying. 

What’s the difference between lying and controlling, manipulating, and filtering the truth?

Glennon’s fear of judgment from the next generation, and 

How to foster real connection in a world where lying is normal.   


For the first part of our conversation, check out 242. We’re All Liars: What’s Your Lying Style?.
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248. The One Way to Get the Truth from Someone

Kerry Washington shares the deeply personal story of what happened when her parents finally told her the truth about a long-held and shocking family secret:


How uncovering the truth – as painful as it was – led Kerry to reclaim her self trust; 

How the revelation made her the lead character of her own life for the first time;

Walking the line between protection and deception;

Breaking the cycle of gaslighting within families; and 

How defying her father freed both of them.


About Kerry: 
Kerry Washington is an Emmy-winning, SAG, and Golden Globe-nominated actor, director, producer, and activist. Washington received widespread recognition for her role as Olivia Pope in the hit drama Scandal. In 2016, Washington launched her production company Simpson Street, whose projects include Confirmation, “American Son”, Emmy award-winning, “Live in Front of a Studio Audience”, The Fight, and Little Fires Everywhere. Washington is a lifelong activist and founder of Influence Change (IC21), an initiative that partners with nonprofits to increase voter turnout. For her efforts, Washington has been honored as one of TIME Magazine’s 2022 Women of The Year.

Washington released her first memoir, Thicker Than Water, which is on sale now!

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247. Kerry Washington on the Family Secret that Shaped Her

Calling all Caregivers! 

Today is a tribute to the everyday efforts of all caregivers who are holding up the sky for everyone else. 

Ai-jen Poo is here shining a light on why caregivers are exhausted, unsupported, and overwhelmed – all while doing the work that makes everything else possible. 

We talk about how to give the people we love the care they deserve without neglecting our own needs, and what can be done to right the systemic failures that leave caregivers fending for themselves. Plus, we hear a heartfelt message from a Pod Squader who represents so many of us in the sandwich (or “panini”) generation.  

About Ai-jen: 
Ai-jen Poo is an award-winning organizer, author, and a leading voice in the women’s movement. She is the President of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, Executive Director of Caring Across Generations, Senior Advisor to Care in Action, Co-Founder of SuperMajority, and a Trustee of the Ford Foundation.

Ai-jen is a nationally recognized expert on caregiving, the future of work, and what’s at stake for women of color. She is the author of the celebrated book, The Age of Dignity: Preparing for the Elder Boom in a Changing America. 

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 246. The Answer to Caregiving Burnout with Ai-jen Poo

Andrea Gibson returns with their partner, Megan Falley, for a gorgeous, hilarious double date with Glennon and Abby:


An Andrea health update and what each has learned since Andrea’s cancer diagnosis;

How their chemistry ignited with Andrea’s questionable move on a sweaty dance floor – and the text moment Andrea knew Megan was the one;

How each of their relationships with their bodies has been transformed by Andrea’s illness;

Navigating a relationship where one partner worries constantly and the other doesn’t know how to worry; and 

Why love looks like peeing your pants, and how they keep putting themselves in the way of miracles.


For our previous conversation with Andrea Gibson, check out: Ep 215 The Bravest Conversation We’ve Had: Andrea Gibson.

About Andrea: 
Andrea Gibson is one of the most celebrated and influential spoken word artists of our time. Best known for their live performances, Andrea has changed the landscape of what it means to attend a “poetry show”. Andrea’s poems center around LGBTQ issues, spirituality, feminism, mental health, and the dismantling of oppressive social systems. Andrea is the author of seven books, most recently “You Better Be Lightning”. 

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IG: @andreagibson

About Megan: 
Megan Falley is a queer femme writer and a full-time touring spoken word poet, author, and teaching artist. Her works include “Drive Here and Devastate Me”; “How Poetry Can Change Your Heart”; and the chapbook “Bad Girls, Honey: Poems About Lana Del Rey.” In addition to other accolades, Falley’s essays have been shortlisted for The Disquiet International Prize in 2021 and the Malahat Review Open Season Awards in 2022.

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245. An Unforgettable Double Date with Andrea Gibson & Megan Falley

Where do you go to escape the pain of reality? Today, author Chloé Cooper Jones shares: 


The survival strategy many of us use to retreat from our lives and how to become more present; 

How she grapples with the world dehumanizing her disabled body; 

Why desire and disgust are so connected – and what they teach us; and 

The thing Chloé wants most – to be seen as inherently whole – and how to get it. 


About Chloé:
Chloé Cooper Jones is a professor, journalist, and the author of the memoir Easy Beauty, which was named a best book of 2022 by The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, TIME Magazine, and was a finalist for the 2023 Pulitzer Prize in Memoir. She was also a Pulitzer Prize finalist in Feature Writing in 2020. She lives in Brooklyn, New York. 

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244. Stop Carrying Other People’s Pain with Chloé Cooper Jones 

The moment Oprah finally knew who she really was;

The hidden gift of criticism, and the image to remember when you’re envious;  

Why “Slugging It Out” is a losing game;

How to let go of outcomes – and make peace with what you have to offer; and 

Oprah reads the letter Glennon wrote to her after her mother died – which she says changed her life.  


Read Oprah’s newest book BUILD THE LIFE YOU WANT.

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243. Oprah Shares “The Letter from Glennon that Freed Me”

Liar, liar – all of our pants are on fire. In this juicy conversation about lying:

Why the question isn’t “DO you lie?” – but “HOW and WHY do you lie?”

What constitutes a lie to you: defining what makes something a lie;

Figuring out our own particular lie languages – and why Abby’s a Bullshitter; and

Deciding if there is anyone you can be completely honest with – and how to create the algorithm of honesty.


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242. We’re All Liars: What’s Your Lying Style?

Amanda, Glennon and Abby explore how to survive the lifelong, universal pain of being left out:


What Abby felt when she heard “We don’t want you here” – and its long-lasting impact; 

Why it is so painful, and how to process feelings of rejection and isolation;

How dissociation helped Glennon cope with rejection in the cafeteria; 

What parents should and *should not* do when helping kids navigate exclusion; and 

The real difference between “fitting in” and “belonging.” 


Also check out Episode 179: How to Fix Our Loneliness with Dr. Marisa G. Franco
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241. Being Left Out: Navigating that Lifelong Ache 

Why is everyone talking about psychedelics?!?! 

Today, Dr. Hillary McBride joins us to answer all of our questions about therapeutic psychedelics, and: 


Her personal, step-by-step journey with therapeutic psychedelics; 

The science behind how psychedelics help break old patterns and create new ones; 

How she uncovered the root of her eating disorder; and 

How psychedelics can reveal your innate goodness. 


For our Embodiment conversation with Dr. McBride, check out: Ep 206: How to Follow the Wisdom of Your Body with Dr. Hillary McBride.

About Dr. McBride: 
Dr. Hillary McBride is a Registered Psychologist, researcher, podcaster, author, and speaker, but she identifies most with being a mother. She has lived experience and clinical expertise in the areas of trauma, embodiment, eating disorders, and the intersection of spirituality and mental health. Her research has focused on women's relationships with their bodies across the lifespan, and her books include: Mothers, Daughters, and Body Image; Embodiment and Eating Disorders, and the bestseller The Wisdom of Your Body. Her next book – Practices for Embodied Living – will be released in 2024. Her podcast, Other People's Problems, was listed in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal as essential listening.

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240. Are Psychedelics an Answer? with Dr. Hillary McBride

Are you capable of being satisfied? Today, adrienne maree brown helps us uncover: 


How to find beauty and connection in the everyday;

How to stop wasting your time on things that don’t feel good;

Why the greatest risk of life is also where its preciousness comes from; 

How, through the discipline of pleasure, we can ALL be satisfied. 


About adrienne:
adrienne maree brown is a pleasure activist, writer, and radical imaginist who grows healing ideas in public through writing, music, and podcasts. adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice as ideas, frameworks, networks and practices for transformation. adrienne’s work is informed by 25 years of social and environmental justice facilitation primarily supporting Black liberation. adrienne is the author/editor of several published texts including Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds; Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good; Grievers; and Maroons. After a multinational childhood, adrienne lived in New York, Oakland, and Detroit before landing in her current home of Durham, NC.

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