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...These Are Their Stories: The Law and Order Podcast

...These Are Their Stories: The Law and Order Podcast

True crime writers and pop culture podcasters Kevin Flynn and Rebecca Lavoie invite special guests to talk about ripped-from-the-headlines episodes of Law & Order, SVU, and Criminal Intent. Tweet to us @lawandorderpod or find us on Facebook at facebook.com/lawandorderpod and on the web at lawandorderpodcast.com.

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49 min•
19 Mar

L&O: Briscoe is accused of being dirty

As Detectives Briscoe and Curtis work a drug sting, Lt. John Flynn shoots the dealer. Lenny backs up his old friend's story that Ruben Morales went for his gun, but Rey is suspicious about Flynn's connection to the dealer. They learn Morales was going to testify against a kingpin who had Flynn on his payroll. Prosecutors Jack McCoy and Jamie Ross want to charge Flynn with murder, but the dirty cop gets a deal in exchange for testifying before a police corruption commission. In front of the cameras, he accuses Briscoe of stealing drugs from the evidence locker. Lenny struggles to defend himself because the incident happened during his drinking days. The married woman he had an affair with comes forward to provide him with an alibi, but is humiliated by the commissioners. While wearing a wire, Briscoe gets Flynn to confirm his innocence. His perjury nullifies his deal, and before Lenny can take him in, Flynn shoots himself.We're talking about Law & Order season 7 episode 5 "Corruption." Our special guest is author and NPR reporter Sonari Glinton.This episode takes cues from the real life police scandal around drugs stolen from the famous "French Connection" operation. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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49 min•
5 Mar

L&O: Briscoe solves 3 murders, 1 kidnapping, and delivers a baby in one day

A jogger who died of a heart attack leads police to the unrelated murder of a woman who's been using the Social Security number of Marcella Celaya, who was killed ten years ago. Detectives Briscoe and Green learn that Rafael Berseño, the victim's husband, used to have the last name Celaya also. Before they question him further, they spot a jealous wife running over her husband with her car again and again. Then, Green discovers a note on a bathroom mirror from a pregnant woman saying she's been kidnapped. Meanwhile, they hear Rafael's brother Reynaldo just got out of prison for killing his wife Marcella, though her body was never found.Reynaldo tells McCoy and Southerlyn he already served his sentence for killing Marcella, even though she wasn't dead, and they can't convict him twice for killing the same person. Still on the job, Briscoe and Green learn Rafael and Marcella set up Reynaldo so they could be together. When he got out of prison, he forced his brother to kill his (their) wife. Briscoe gets a lead on the kidnapping. The mom-to-be was abducted by an infertile woman. They rescue her just as she goes into labor, forcing Lennie to deliver the baby himself.  Before they can finally punch out for the night, Dr. Rogers calls to say that jogger didn't have a heart attack...he'd been poisoned!We're talking about one crazy day for the detectives in Law & Order season 13 episode 23* "Couples." Our guest is Sarah Carradine from the Crime Seen podcast.Among the many inspirations for this story include the case of Clara and David Lynn Harris.*Note: Hulu incorrectly lists this as episode 24. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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46 min•
19 Feb

SVU: David Harbour plays with dolls and kidnaps Gloria Reuben's kid

After the body of a mummified child is discovered, Benson and Stabler run out of leads. At a vigil for "Cherish Doe," Fin meets Violet (Gloria Reuben). She's fresh from rehab and fears the unidentified girl is her missing daughter, Nina. The detectives learn the victim is a different girl, but both children were taken from their homes by a man posing as a social services worker. The trail leads to a handyman with an obsession for expensive dolls (David Harbour). In order to get him to say where the missing Nina is, Violet must convince him she's not a bad mother.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 4 episode 7 Dolls. Our returning guest is Lani Diane Rich.Some plot points share similarities with the 1991 investigation into an unidentified child known only as “Baby Hope.” For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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5 Feb

SVU: The hoarder brothers kept their mom in the freezer

The squad investigates the murder of Bobbi O'Rourke, a book author who'd written about her life as a teen prostitute. Carisi finds out the victim was just posing as the writer for public appearances because no one has ever seen the real Bobbi. Fin traces the royalty payments to the home of Joe and Ben Edelman (Judd Hirsch and Wallace Shawn), two bickering, old Jewish men who have lived as hoarders and shut-ins for decades. Benson learns there is no Bobbi; Ben wrote the sexually-explicit book under the pseudonym. But before they let the brothers go, Carisi discovers their dead mother's body in a locked freezer. ADA Peter Stone charges the Edelmans with murder. Based on the book, Olivia believes Ben might be a past sexual assault victim. Rollins learns Joe was also molested, but the brothers have never told each other about their trauma. At trial, Joe takes the blame for smothering their dying mother decades ago - then has a massive heart attack. Visiting his older brother's death bed, Ben finally shares his secret.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season twenty episode ten "Alta Kockers." Our returning guest is Lauren  Milberger.Characters in this episode are inspired by Homer and Langley Collyer. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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22 Jan

CI: Which novelist murdered to protect their secret?

Goren and Eames investigate the murder of an aspiring writer. Kira Danforth was surrounded by unsavory literary figures, including a lecherous book agent (Fisher Stevens), an author with a hardscrabble back story (Pablo Schreiber), and a publishing giant who hasn't had a bestseller in years (Peter Coyote). The detectives learn Kira discovered TJ Hawkins' gritty biography was a lie and that the washed-up Lionel Shill plagiarized her unpublished novel.  Did one of the writers kill her to protect their secret?We're talking about Criminal Intent season seven episode seven "Self-made." Our returning guest is Pulitzer Prize-winning author Dr. Marcia Chatelain.Among the literary scandals that inspired this episode is that of J.T. LeRoy.  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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48 min•
8 Jan

SVU: Stabler beats up Sabrina Carpenter's attacker

Benson and Stabler connect an assault on a child (played by a young Sabrina Carpenter) to the rape of Larissa, who'd been forced into child pornography decades ago. The rapist leads them to Orville Underwood, the man acquitted of making the explicit videos years earlier. He explains that his DNA was on photos found at the rapist's home because he decided to rub one out in the bathroom and it got everywhere.Unable to make a case against Underwood, Olivia and Elliot look for Daniel, Larissa's scene partner. The detectives discover he's making his own child porn and refuses to testify against his old kidnapper. After Underwood gets the case thrown out of court, Larissa takes matters into her own hands.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 12 episode 12 "Possessed." Our returning guest is Lauren van der Meer from the "Drinks with Death" podcast. Aspects of this episode take some inspiration from the case of Alex Cabarga. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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