We’re taking a short break from the Twitter shitshow to give you an interview with Jason Gay, sports and humor columnist at The Wall Street Journal. His new book is “I Wouldn’t Do That If I Were Me: Modern Blunders and Modest Triumphs (but Mostly Blunders).” Gay talks to Peter Kafka about what it’s like to write humor for a publication that’s not exactly known for that, the cognitive dissonance required to enjoy football, and why he isn’t interested in making Elon Musk jokes.

﻿Featuring: Jason Gay Matt Levine (@jasongay), Sports and Humor Columnist at The Wall Street Journal
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Mass layoffs and cutbacks at companies like Meta and Twitter point to a slowdown (and chaos) in tech. Bloomberg tech reporter Sarah Frier helps us sort through the madness. Then, Disney has used Marvel movies to basically print money over the past ten years. With the release of “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever,” we look at whether that strategy will continue to be a winning one with pop culture expert and X-Ray Vision podcaster Jason Concepcion.
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Featuring: Jason Concepcion (@netw3rk), Writer and Host of Crooked Media's X-Ray Vision
Sarah Frier (@sarahfrier), Tech Reporter at Bloomberg
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Tech’s big bust, plus Marvel (and Wakanda) Forever?

Punchbowl News co-founder Jake Sherman joins us from the U.S. Capitol building just in time for the 2022 midterm elections. Recode’s Peter Kafka hits him up for some election spoilers. Then he gets into the business of Punchbowl News: He asks Sherman what drove him to leave Politico, and how Punchbowl’s various revenue streams work (including a $300 annual subscription) and why Sherman isn’t worried about raising money.

Featuring: Jake Sherman(@JakeSherman), Co-Founder of Punchbowl News
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Election special with Punchbowl's Jake Sherman

Jason Gay isn’t making Elon Musk jokes

When Bloomberg’s Matt Levine sent an enticing email about “a big thing coming out about crypto in Businessweek,” Recode’s Peter Kafka couldn’t resist. Turns out, the “big thing” is a 40,000(!) word piece that took over the entire magazine, titled “The Crypto Story." Levine explains why he wrote a 40,000(!) word piece about cryptocurrency, which he thinks is fascinating even if the boom has turned to a bust. Plus some bonus thoughts on the end (?) of the Elon Musk Buys Twitter Saga, and What It All Means.
And then, Ankler Media CEO Janice Min talks about Hollywood's favorite thing to read about: Hollywood. In 2021, Min joined Richard Rushfield to expand his Substack newsletter into a full-on media business. Min talks about how running Ankler differs from running The Hollywood Reporter, and what happens when two media journalists hit up Y Combinator for seed capital. Plus, Min reflects on the heyday of the iconic celebrity news magazine Us Weekly, where her role as editor-in-chief meant she was a celebrity who didn’t plan on becoming a celebrity.

﻿Featuring: Matt Levine (@matt_levine), Reporter for Bloomberg
Janice Min (@janicemin), CEO of Ankler Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Bloomberg’s Matt Levine still loves crypto; Ankler’s Janice Min loves newsletters

One week after the launch of Semafor, Recode’s Peter Kafka flags down the news startup’s co-founder Ben Smith.
Who is Semafor for, really? How can a news startup based in NYC and Washington solve polarization? What, exactly, is a “Semaform” and what’s the point of it? And what New York Times office amenity does Smith miss the most?

﻿Featuring: Ben Smith (@semaforben), Editor-In-Chief at Semafor
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Ben Smith says Semafor will take 10 years to get right

Netflix added 2.4 million subscribers! Ads are coming! Wall Street’s excited again! But is Netflix back for real? Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Bloomberg's Lucas Shaw to get a reality check on the streamer and the streaming business.
And then, CNBC’s Senior Tech &amp; Media Correspondent, Julia Boorstin, joins Peter for a wide-ranging interview about the latest media news, her career, and her new book "When Women Lead: What They Achieve, Why They Succeed, and How We Can Learn from Them."
And remember, you can always binge-listen to Recode Media completely free on our ad-supported tier, which is also our one and only tier. Please don’t skip past the ads, thank you.

﻿Featuring: Lucas Shaw (@Lucas_Shaw), Reporter for Bloomberg
Julia Boorstin (@JBoorstin), Senior Media &amp; Tech Reporter CNBC
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Netflix is back (?) + Julia Boorstin on women who lead

Since 2005, Randall Munroe has used his webcomic XKCD to comment on the world around him and express his love for pop culture, math, and science. Now, with the release of his new book “What If 2?: More Serious Scientific Answers to Absurd Hypothetical Questions”, the cartoonist is yet again using his physics expertise to answer the most interesting hypothetical questions with a dash of humor. He sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to reflect on his career so far, and what he has planned ahead.

﻿Featuring: Randall Munroe (@xkcd), creator of XKCD and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Inside the curious mind of XKCD cartoonist Randall Munroe

He’s back! Elon Musk, who agreed to buy Twitter for $44 billion last spring and then tried to back out of the deal, says he wants to buy Twitter for $44 billion, after all.
That doesn’t mean it will actually happen - because, Elon Musk - but maybe it’s real this time. Maybe.
So how did we get here and what happens next and what have we learned about Elon Musk over the last few months? Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to two Twitter pros: Jason Goldman, the company’s first product VP, who says a Musk-owned Twitter is the worst-case scenario; and the Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel, who dove deep into Musk’s texts to learn more about Musk’s inner circle, and the way they think.

Featuring: Jason Goldman (@goldman), Host of DunePod and Former Product VP at Twitter
Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel), Contributing writer to The Atlantic
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Elon Musk is buying Twitter. Really. (Really?)

Writer and actor Eric Bogosian (Talk Radio, Law &amp; Order: Criminal Intent, Succession) has been in the business for a while. Long enough, that he tells Recode’s Peter Kafka, he’s learned to let other people worry about the business stuff. AMC’s hoping he’s good business for them; the network is hoping its new Interview with a Vampire can help fill the zombie-shaped genre hole left by the ending of The Walking Dead.

Bogosian talks about the modern-day relevance of Talk Radio, paying for his kids’ college with a steady Law &amp; Order paycheck, and why he decided not to monetize his online project 100 (monologues).

Featuring: Eric Bogosian (@ericbogosian), Actor and Writer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Interview with Interview with a Vampire’s Eric Bogosian

YouTube wants a piece of that sweet TikTok action, so it’s getting out the checkbook. The most popular creators on YouTube’s TikTok clone — that’s YouTube Shorts, officially — will get a cut that comes from a pool of all Shorts revenue, rather than on an individual video-by-video basis. The company's also introducing a “Super Thanks” tipping feature. Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to YouTube’s Chief Product Officer Neal Mohan about the changes and tries to find out why his YouTube Shorts feed is full of Ben Shapiro videos. We don’t have “Super Thanks,” but feel free to Venmo a tip to our producer Jelani for staying up late to get this one out to you.

Featuring: Neal Mohan (@nealmohan), Chief Product Officer at YouTube
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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YouTube fights TikTok with cash

Chef José Andrés may very well be The Best Person. His nonprofit, World Central Kitchen, activates local restaurants to provide meals to people in crisis areas. He’s the man behind acclaimed restaurants like Jaleo and minibar. And, he’s a pure delight wherever he shows up, whether it be on TV or this podcast you’re looking at right now. And he has a new podcast and a Substack, both called “Longer Tables.” Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Andrés about why he added another thing to his… plate. (Sorry.)

Featuring: José Andrés (@chefjoseandres), Celebrity Chef
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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José Andrés has a full plate, but he's  adding more

Despite YouTube’s massive influence, it's been chronically underreported on. But finally, Bloomberg’s Mark Bergen wrote the comprehensive, soup-to-nuts history of the site. His new book is called "Like, Comment, Subscribe: Inside YouTube’s Chaotic Rise to World Domination."
Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Bergen about changes to YouTube’s recommendation algorithm, its various attempts to make original premium content, the rise of TikTok, and FЯED. Plus, how the entirety of YouTube almost got filed under a tab on Google’s failed social network.

Featuring: Mark Bergen (@mhbergen), Writer for Bloomberg Business and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The inside story of YouTube

Like other big deal TV creators, Robert and Michelle King are thriving in the streaming era. The duo behind the long-running CBS show The Good Wife is making two shows for Paramount+, with more on the way. As The Good Fight - a Good Wife spinoff - enters its sixth and final season, Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to the Kings about the move from broadcast to streaming, and why they spend a lot of time tweaking the Trump administration, but less talking about the pandemic. Plus: a very costly Bitcoin miscalculation.

Featuring: Michelle &amp; Robert King (@RKing618), TV Writers &amp; Show Runners
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Why the Good Fight creators are glad they moved from CBS to streaming

Kyle Chayka writes about tech and internet culture for the New Yorker; he’s also the co-founder of Dirt, a newsletter — powered in part by crypto — about… tech and internet culture. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about both of his gigs: They dive deep into his recent essay about “The Age of Algorithmic Anxiety”, and what humans mean when they say they’re upset with The Algorithm. Then Chayka describes the way Dirt is using Web3 tech — specifically, a DAO - to help run Dirt, and why he thinks there are genuinely useful/non-scammy ways to apply the blockchain to media companies.

Featuring: Kyle Chayka (@chaykak), Tech and Internet Culture writer for The New Yorker and Co-Founder of Dirt
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Algorithms that give you anxiety and a Web3 project that doesn't suck.

In 2011, HBO changed the prestige television landscape with its expensive, ultra-violent, sex-filled fantasy epic Game of Thrones. Three years after that show’s divisive ending, HBO's hoping the world is ready to go back to Westeros with its GoT prequel, House of the Dragon.
The Ringer’s Joanna Robinson joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about House of the Dragon and its competition, Amazon’s long-awaited The Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power. Which fantasy show will rule them all? Is there room for both?
And then, we pivot from fictional carnage to real-life (figurative) carnage with a dip back into the streaming wars, and the Netflix of it all.

Featuring: Joanna Robinson (@jowrotethis), Writer and Podcaster at The Ringer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Home Box Office of the Dragon

Democrats have a complicated relationship with social media - sometimes they think it’s a huge help; other times, not so much. Which is why it’s interesting to hear from Nell Thomas, the chief technology officer for the Democratic National Committee, who previously worked on data science for… Facebook. Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Thomas about how working for Facebook helped her understand the platform; how her current role at the DNC is supposed to help Democrats win elections; and how the DNC weighed the risks and benefits of joining TikTok.

Featuring: Nell Thomas (@nellwyn), Chief Technology Officer for The DNC
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Why the Democrats finally got on TikTok

This week, we bring you an episode of Recode and The Verge’s latest season of Land of the Giants: The Facebook / Meta Disruption. To check out the first two episodes, subscribe wherever you subscribe to podcasts!
This episode explores Facebook’s acquisition of Instagram in 2012. Mark Zuckerberg promised he would be hands-off with the company’s curated aesthetic and simple features. But as Facebook scaled the startup into a social media juggernaut, tensions flared. Instagram’s founders would leave, and it’s now a very different app than when it first started. But are the changes setting the company up to compete in the future? Or is Instagram losing the magic that made it great in the first place? 

Hosted by Shirin Ghaffary (@shiringhaffary) and Alex Heath (@alexeheath)

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Land of the Giants: Why Instagram Broke Its Square

B.J. Novak has starred on TV, written a best-selling kids’ book, and tried his hand at app-making. Now he’s written, directed, and starred in his own movie: Vengeance, about a self-obsessed podcaster, red/blue state divides, and much more. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about making the movie during a pandemic, what it was like to be on The Office when it was on NBC and then on Netflix, and why streaming is a “wasteland for comedy.”

Plus! The New York Times' James Poniewozek explains why the January 6 hearings’ novel format has worked on TV and social media.

Featuring: B.J. Novak (@bjnovak), Actor, Comedian, and Writer
James Poniewozik (@poniewozik), TV Critic for The New York Times
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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B.J. Novak on “Vengeance”, podcasts and the downside of the streaming boom

People have been talking about the metaverse for years. But they’re talking about it much more these days, spurred by Mark Zuckerberg’s full-fledged embrace of the… actually, what exactly is the metaverse again, anyways?
Investor, analyst and metaverse explainer Matthew Ball, who’s already tried explaining this stuff to Recode’s Peter Kafka, has written a whole book about it, so he’s back again: Ball talks about what he thinks the metaverse is really going to be, what it’s not going to be, how long it might take to get here and why you may or may not care about it.

Featuring: Matthew Ball (@ballmatthew), Investor, Analyst, and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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What is the metaverse, when is it going to show up and who’s going to run it?

20 years ago the New Yorker’s Ken Auletta wrote a seminal profile of famed and feared producer Harvey Weinstein - with one glaring omission. Now Auletta has written a book about Weinstein — Hollywood Ending — and this time he’s able to cover the full story. Auletta talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the two works, and why it took so long for Weinstein’s much-rumored sexual abuses to come out in the open.

Featuring: Ken Auletta (@kenauletta), Writer at The New Yorker, and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Ken Auletta on the Harvey Weinstein story he wrote, the story he couldn’t write, and the one he’s publishing now.

Caryn Mandabach produced some of the biggest hits in TV history — like The Cosby Show, Roseanne, 3rd Rock from the Sun, and That ’70s Show. Now she’s thriving in the Netflix era, with Peaky Blinders — a historical crime drama that just ended a six-season run and is a global success story. She talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the way the TV business has changed, and the risk and reward of owning your own shows.

Featuring: Caryn Mandabach (@mandabachtv), Executive Producer of Netflix's Peaky Blinders
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Netflix has a huge hit with Peaky Blinders — and Caryn Mandabach owns it.

Three interviews! One pod: First entrepreneur and investor Zach Weinberg tells Recode’s Peter Kafka why he’s accidentally become Twitter Famous as a crypto skeptic — and explains how you can do it, too. Then two talks from the recent Collision Conference: Substack CEO Chris Best on the growth of his company, and about an unsuccessful attempt to raise a funding round (this was recorded before Substack laid off 14% of its workforce); and ABC News boss Kim Godwin on the challenges of reaching audiences that may no longer want fact-based news — or, at a minimum, aren’t watching traditional TV anymore.

Featuring: Zach Weinberg (@zachweinberg) Founder of Flatiron and Invite Media, Investor at Operator Partners
Chris Best (@cjgbest), Co-Founder and CEO of Substack
Kim Godwin (@KimGodwinTV), President of ABC News
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The future of: Crypto criticism; Substack and ABC News

Today, CNBC’s Alex Sherman joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to ponder several media mysteries:
Why did Netflix lose 2 million subscribers?
Why was Disney executive Peter Rice unexpectedly fired?
What’s going on at Warner Bros. Discovery?
Is someone gonna buy VICE?
Why is Wall Street meh on BuzzFeed?

Featuring: Alex Sherman (@sherman4949), Media and Tech Reporter for CNBC
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Is this a Netflix problem or a streaming problem?

The Bill Simmons Podcast is, by its own description, "the most downloaded sports podcast of all time." This week, it hits its 1,000th episode.
Bill Simmons began his career as a Boston sportswriter and went on to found ESPN's sports and pop culture blog Grantland. After ESPN shut down the site, Simmons started the Ringer — which he sold to Spotify in 2020.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Simmons about how he became a podcasting pioneer, and when he realized nerditry about the NBA and Game of Thrones could both live under the same roof. Simmons also reflects on what he learned from his time as an employee of The Walt Disney Corporation and how things are different at Spotify. Plus, he reveals the number one dream guest he’d love to have on his show.

Featuring: Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons), Founder of The Ringer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Bill Simmons on podcasts, celebrity interviews and life at Spotify

TikTok isn’t just funny dances and glow-ups anymore… it’s also for venture capital!!! Logan Bartlett, managing director at the VC firm Redpoint, reaches out to startups via the socials. He also hosts a podcast called Cartoon Avatars. Bartlett talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about wooing the next generation of tech entrepreneurs, the VC world’s abrupt shift to restraint, and, of course, more crypto stuff.

Featuring: Logan Bartlett (@loganbartlett), Managing Director at Redpoint Ventures and host of Cartoon Avatars
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Why is this VC on your TikTok?

Software engineer Molly White has emerged as one of Web3’s most high-profile skeptics. Her website “Web3 is going just great” chronicles scams, bugs, “rug pulls” and thefts plaguing the world of NFTs (non-fungible tokens) DAOs (decentralized autonomous organizations), and other blockchain technologies. She and Recode’s Peter Kafka discuss her take on all things Web3, why she took on this project in her free time, and how the feedback she’s received compares to her previous work on GamerGate and the Boogaloo movement.

Featuring: Molly White (@molly0xfff), software engineer and creator of Web3 is going just great
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Engineer Molly White explains why Web3 isn’t going great

Lots of people will tell you that misinformation is a big problem online. But exactly what the problem is, and what tech companies can and should do about it, is up for debate. It’s also what Bloomberg reporter Davey Alba covers every day.
In this conversation, she talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the recent massacre in Buffalo, which the shooter promoted on Discord and live-streamed on Twitch; copies of his manifesto and clips of the killing then migrated around the internet. All of which echoes a previous mass shooting in 2019. What, if anything, have the big tech companies learned about these kinds of attacks and how to respond to them? Then Alba talks about one of the latest problems platforms like YouTube and Facebook are grappling with: Potentially dangerous instructions about how to make your own infant formula, and whether those should stay online.

Featuring: Davey Alba (@daveyalba), reporter for Bloomberg Technology
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Is Big Tech getting better about misinformation?

The markets are crashing - and that includes both Netflix and the media companies that wanted to be Netflix. What’s next? Wall Street analyst and investor Rich Greenfield weighs in.
Then, Recode’s Peter Kafka has a conversation with Tony Fadell, who helped bring the iPod and iPhone to life, and then built and sold Nest, the smart home company. His new book is “Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making.” Fadell talks about how developing a product begins with creating its “story,” and why he fought so hard to include a $3 screwdriver in Nest thermostat boxes. He also touches on some high-profile failures, unintended consequences, and why he doesn’t want to dance in the metaverse.

Featuring: Rich Greenfield (@RichLightShed) Partner &amp; TMT Analyst at Lightshed Partners
Tony Fadell (@tfadell), Tech Investor &amp; Entrepreneur, author of "Build"
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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What can you learn from the guy who built the iPod?

Ronan Farrow’s latest investigative work for The New Yorker looks into the surveillance technology Pegasus — spyware that gives remote access to a smartphone’s camera, microphone, and contents. Be sure to power your phone completely off after you listen to the episode; Farrow will tell you why.
Recode’s Peter Kafka also asks Farrow about his career — what it’s like to have his work put under a microscope, the impact of his Pulitzer-winning reporting on Harvey Weinstein, and what he doesn’t miss about working on cable news.

Featuring: Ronan Farrow (@RonanFarrow), Investigative Reporter at the New Yorker
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Ronan Farrow: “We are living in a post-privacy age”

Design genius Jony Ive was Steve Jobs’ chief collaborator at Apple. But Ive didn’t run Apple after Jobs’ death: That role went to Tim Cook, the supply chain guy. Now Apple is a company that’s increasingly interested in making money from services and is less dependent on jaw-dropping devices. And Ive doesn’t work at Apple anymore.
Journalist Tripp Mickle, who covered Apple for years at the Wall Street Journal, has a new book about the fraught relationship between Cook and Ive, and Apple’s transformation after Jobs, and this is one where the title gives away a lot: “After Steve: How Apple Became a Trillion-Dollar Company and Lost Its Soul.” He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about all of that — as well as a curious and telling anecdote about a soap dispenser.

Featuring: Tripp Mickle (@trippmickle), New York Times reporter and author of After Steve
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Behind the scenes at Apple with journalist Tripp Mickle

Wesley Morris wrote his first review when he was 15 years old, about the movie “Cape Fear.” Since then, he’s become one of the most celebrated cultural critics of our time, and has two Pulitzers to prove it.
Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to Morris about his work as a critic at large for the New York Times and the new season of his podcast, “Still Processing.” Other topics discussed in this very fun and thoughtful interview include The Slap, why we’re not getting another “Basic Instinct,” and what’s up with Elon Musk.

Featuring: Wesley Morris (@wesley_morris), Critic at Large for the New York Times and host of Still Processing
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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NYT’s Wesley Morris on writing, podcasting and staying off TikTok

It’s been a big week for media events involving tens of billions of dollars: Elon Musk is buying Twitter for $44 billion, meanwhile, Netflix lost more than $50 billion in value.
First, Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel about the multiverse of possibilities of how Musk’s Twitter might operate. Will we enter the “darkest timeline” of supervillain nihilistic world-burning, or revert to Twitter’s pre-2016 stance on content moderation?
Then, Peter checks in on Netflix, which reported a loss of 200,000 subscribers last week and is adding an ad-supported subscription tier. No need to borrow a friend’s password to listen to this conversation with Lucas Shaw, Bloomberg’s Leader of Entertainment, Media &amp; Telecom.

Featuring: Lucas Shaw (@Lucas_Shaw), Reporter for Bloomberg
Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel), Writer for The Atlantic, and of The Galaxy Brain newsletter
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Can Elon Fix Twitter? Can Reed Fix Netflix?

Elon Musk loves Twitter and also thinks it’s broken. So he wants to buy it.
Can he, really? And who would help him? And why? And wtf does it mean when the world’s richest man is also one of its best shitposters? Bloomberg's Kurt Wagner and the Atlantic’s Derek Thompson try to help Recode’s Peter Kafka figure it out.
Featuring: Kurt Wagner (@KurtWagner8), tech and social media reporter for Bloomberg
Derek Thompson (@DKThomp), staff writer for The Atlantic and host of Plain English for The Ringer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Elon and Twitter: A love/hate story

Within the past few months, Disney CEO Bob Chapek managed to piss off his shareholders, the LGBT community, and right-wing conservatives. Today we talk about how he did it, why it happened, and what’s next.
First, Puck’s Matt Belloni joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to compare Disney’s old and new Bobs, Iger and Chapek. Belloni details the inner turmoil at Disney over the company’s initially tepid response to Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law - and why Disney investors are dissatisfied with Chapek for other reasons.
Then, Jane Coaston, host of The New York Times podcast The Argument, explains what the “Don’t Say Gay” law actually says, and how the right made Disney its latest enemy in the culture war.

Featuring: Matt Belloni (@MattBelloni), Founding Partner at Puck
Jane Coaston (@janecoaston), Host of The Argument
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Disney vs. Itself vs. The Right

It’s time to check back in on the state of the streaming wars, with two binge-worthy conversations. First, Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to analyst Michael Nathanson about Big Media’s new problem: TV ratings are plummeting because all the good stuff is streaming — but now Wall Street doesn’t just want streaming, it wants *profitable* streaming.
Then, we travel into the time stream to talk about the past, present and future of the streaming wars with Dawn Chmielewski, co-author of Binge Times: Inside Hollywood’s Furious Billion-Dollar Battle to Take Down Netflix, and Julia Alexander of Parrot Analytics. We discuss the legacy of Seeso, why the real audience of CNN+ may be the people in front of the camera, and when and if we’re getting the bundle back.

Featuring: Michael Nathanson, Senior Research Analyst at MoffetNathanson
Dawn Chmielewski (@DawnC331), U.S. Entertainment Business Correspondent at Reuters
Julia Alexander (@loudmouthjulia) Senior Strategy Analyst at Parrot Analytics
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The State of Streaming

Legendary comedy director/writer/producer Judd Apatow was busy during lockdown: He wrote a book and made two movies. One of them is The Bubble, a movie about… making a movie during the pandemic. Apatow talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about what success looks like in the streaming era, coming to terms with TikTok, and his Oscar tweets. Also discussed: How many meetings it took to design a CGI flammable alien dinosaur penis.

Featuring: Judd Apatow (@JuddApatow), Writer, Director, Producer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Judd Apatow on The Bubble, TikTok and The Slap

The Oscars used to be one of the biggest things on TV. Now they’re… not. Does that matter to the movie business and to movie-goers? We discuss with our annual Oscar experts: Vox’s Alissa Wilkinson and Slate’s Allegra Frank, who talk about their favorite movies, and try to sell Recode’s Peter Kafka on watching a 3-hour foreign language film. But more important: How and why should the Oscars try to remake itself for a TikTok world — and will a Twitter poll + DJ Kahled and Tony Hawk do the trick?

Featuring: Alissa Wilkinson (@alissamarie), Film &amp; Culture Editor at Vox
Allegra Frank (@LegsFrank), Senior Editor at Slate
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The Oscars: Hollywood’s smallest biggest night?

March Madness has started, but this isn’t a podcast about that: Today, it’s a podcast about sports media, about leaving sports media to do your own thing, and about how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine may radically reshape big-time soccer.
First Dan Le Batard, formerly of ESPN, joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about his “fool’s quest” to found Meadowlark Media, “a company with a soul.” And why that company needed a big infusion of cash from the sports betting business to get off the ground.
Then, soccer journalist Grant Wahl shares an extraordinary story about how the UK’s sanctions against Russia impacted one of the most famous teams in the world, London-based Chelsea F.C. Plus, he talks about what it’s been like to strike out on his own after being fired from Sports Illustrated.

Featuring: Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl), Soccer Journalist on https://grantwahl.substack.com/
Dan Le Batard (@LeBatardShow), Founder of Meadowlark Media and host of the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Dan Le Batard on life after ESPN; Russia sanctions upend big-time soccer

Silicon Valley goes out of its way not to upset countries around the world - even when that means making embarrassing compromises. But it has taken a stand against Russia in its invasion of Ukraine, limiting services or cutting them off entirely. What happens next? Recode’s Peter Kafka and the New York Times’ Shira Ovide both wrote about this separately, and now they’re talking about it together.
Then, Wall Street Journal reporter Kirsten Grind talks about her new book, Happy at Any Cost: The Revolutionary Vision and Fatal Quest of Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh. Plus Kirsten reflects on her blockbuster reporting about the toxic culture at Activision.

Featuring: Kirsten Grind (@kirstengrind), Investigative Reporter for Wall Street Journal and Author
Shira Ovide (@ShiraOvide), writer of the On Tech newsletter for the New York Times
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Big Tech takes a side, finally + Zappos' tragic founder

Recode's Peter Kafka talks to three reporters about the realities of covering the war in Ukraine and sorting truth from disinformation -- from the ground, from afar, and online.
In Ukraine: CNN’s Chief International Correspondent Clarissa Ward discusses the challenges of war reporting in 2022, everything from planning food and exit routes to working with a remote team to analyze online videos.
In DC: Puck co-founder and Washington correspondent Julia Ioffe talk about how hard it is to learn what Russians think about what's going on, and how long she expects the war to hold the American people's interest.
Finally, Jane Lytvynenko, a senior research fellow at Harvard's Shorenstein Center, gives us a crash course on Russia’s history of disinformation dissemination. She also tells us about Telegram, which essentially functions as “Eastern European Twitter."

Featuring: Clarissa Ward (@clarissaward), Chief International Correspondent for CNN
Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe), Co-Founder and Washington Correspondent for Puck
Jane Lytvynenko (@JaneLytv), Senior Research Fellow at Harvard's Shorenstein Center
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Covering the war in Ukraine, online and on the ground

When Recode’s Peter Kafka advises you not to write your book, WRITE THAT BOOK. That’s the lesson Mike Isaac learned: His book “Super Pumped: The Battle for Uber” is now a Showtime series starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Not only that, Showtime announced that Mike’s next, yet-to-be-finished book about Facebook will be the basis of season 2. Peter talks to Mark about what it’s like to shift from the world of reporting to prestige TV drama.
Then, host of LinkedIn’s “Hello Monday” podcast, Jessi Hempel, talks about the launch of LinkedIn’s new podcast network.

Featuring: Mike Isaac (@MikeIsaac), Author and Tech Reporter at The New York Times
Jessi Hempel (@jessiwrites) Senior Editor At Large at LinkedIn and host of Hello Monday
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Uber, but for TV

Make sure no one’s on your home phone while you use your dial-up modem to listen to this week’s show on your 1998 Bondi Blue iMac. Recode Media’s Peter Kafka talks to bestselling Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs author Chuck Klosterman about his new book: The Nineties: A Book. 

But first, NPR Media Correspondent David Folkenflik walks us through Sarah Palin’s defamation suit against The New York Times, which was rejected by a jury and a judge this week.

Featuring: David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik), NPR Media Correspondent
Chuck Klosterman (@CKlosterman), Author of The Nineties: A Book
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Chuck Klosterman relives the 1990s & Sarah Palin loses her NYT libel suit

This is (an update about what’s going on at) CNN. Dylan Byers of Puck News joins Recode’s Peter Kafka: They talk about the fallout from former CNN president Jeff Zucker’s resignation and the WarnerMedia-Discovery merger federal regulators approved yesterday.
And then for something completely different, it’s the delightful Ben Schwartz! The affable Parks and Rec actor and improviser joins his new pal “PK” for a fun conversation. We talk about his new Apple TV+ show The Afterparty, working for Netflix, and how he became the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog. But wait, there’s more: Schwartz also talks breaking into show business via the internet, watching someone steal his content and go viral, and doing punch-up for Star Wars director J.J. Abrams.

Featuring: Dylan Byers (@DylanByers), Founding Partner and Senior Correspondent at Puck
Ben Schwartz (@rejectedjokes), Actor, Writer, and Comedian
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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What's next for CNN? + The Afterparty's Ben Schwartz writes jokes for C-3PO

First: Neil Young quit Spotify over Joe Rogan, but just a handful of musicians have followed him. Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw assesses whether Spotify’s podcast problems are over, or just beginning. 
Then, Recode’s Peter Kafka talks to two journalists who left their jobs to start their own media organizations. Lauren Williams was Vox’s editor-in-chief — this week she co-launched Capital B, a nonprofit news site aimed at Black readers. Brian Morrissey was editor-in-chief at Digiday and is now running The Rebooting - a one-man operation aimed at a business audience. Both of them talk about business models, the risk and reward of building something from scratch, and what success looks like when you’re starting out on your own.

Featuring: Lucas Shaw (@Lucas_Shaw), Reporter for Bloomberg
Lauren Williams (@laurenwilliams), Co-Founder and CEO of Capital B
Brian Morrissey (@bmorrissey), Founder of The Rebooting
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Is Spotify’s Joe Rogan problem over? Plus how to launch a new media startup.

Just in time for the NFL playoffs, sports betting is legal in New York. $600 million in bets were placed in the first week alone. Now that it’s legal in more than 30 states, Recode’s Peter Kafka dives into how the business works and how going legit might change the TV sports viewing experience. Getting in on the action: Action Network CEO Patrick Keane and Sports Illustrated’s Richard Johnson.

Featuring: Patrick Keane (@phkeane), CEO of Action Network
Richard Johnson (@RJ_Writes), writer for Sports Illustrated
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Game on: Behind the sports betting boom

It’s the biggest acquisition in Microsoft’s history: $68.7 billion to buy the video game company, Activision Blizzard. 
First, Axios’ Chief Technology Correspondent, Ina Fried, tells us how Xbox fits into Microsoft’s overall business. She touches on how Activision Blizzard’s scandals impacted the deal, and whether Microsoft’s plan to buy the company that makes Overwatch will get past federal over watchers.
For the gaming side, Peter talks to Chris Grant, SVP of Polygon and The Verge. He explains just how big the video game industry is, and takes us through the history of Activision, from the 1982 Atari hit Pitfall! to Call of Duty.

Featuring: Chris Grant (@chrisgrant), SVP at Vox Media
Ina Fried (@inafried), Chief Technology Correspondent at Axios
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Read Ina’s coverage of the deal: https://www.axios.com/microsoft-activision-blizzard-deal-big-tech-regulation-aaf95937-7df1-4d4a-99c1-267b9a9d22f8.html 
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Gaming out Microsoft’s $69 billion Activision Blizzard deal

What the hell is Web3, why did everyone start talking about it all at once, and are we going to still be talking about it in a few months? Jarrod Dicker, an investor at the Chernin Group, may know the answers to some of those questions, so he sat down to talk with Recode’s Peter Kafka. For years, Dicker has been in and around crypto — Web3 is really a rebranding of crypto — but he also knows the media business: Prior to Chernin, he was an executive at the Washington Post. He’s bullish on Web3 because that’s his job, but he’s also got a nuanced perspective on what this stuff does and doesn’t mean for lots of different businesses.

Featuring: Jarrod Dicker (@jarroddicker), Partner at the Chernin Group
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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So … what the hell is Web3? With the Chernin Group’s Jarrod Dicker

CNN’s Oliver Darcy joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss the way conservative media covers - and, importantly, doesn’t cover - the 1/6 riot and its aftermath. Then, NYT’s Erin Griffith reports back from the frontlines of the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos trial, with tales of 3 AM wake-ups and keyboard mufflers. And she argues that Holmes’ story is Silicon Valley’s story, whether Silicon Valley likes it or not.

Featuring: Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy), Senior Media reporter at CNN
Erin Griffith (@eringriffith), Tech &amp; VC reporter at The New York Times
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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How the right covers 1/6 + tales from the Theranos trial, with Oliver Darcy and Erin Griffith

2021 was the year everyone who wasn’t already in podcasting jumped in the pool - and everyone who was already there spent more time and money trying to move the industry from promising to profitable. The Verge’s Ashley Carman joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about everyone from Amazon to Apple to Spotify - of course - and talk about what we’re going to see, and listen to, next year.

Featuring: Ashley Carman (@ashleyrcarman), Senior Reporter at The Verge and Lead Writer at Hot Pod
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The Verge’s Ashley Carman on podcasting’s big year

How do you describe what happened to the media world in 2021? What happened to the movie business, streaming, music, TikTok, and more? Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to sort what changed, what didn’t, and what 2022 might bring. 

Featuring: Lucas Shaw (@Lucas_Shaw), Reporter for Bloomberg
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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What the hell happened in 2021? With Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw.

Jason Kilar does not have opinions about the finale of HBO’s Succession, because he hasn’t seen it yet. The CEO of HBO’s parent company, WarnerMedia, does have opinions about lots of other stuff, though, including the future of movie theaters, the rise of games, and how the ad industry reacts to the streaming world. Kilar is scheduled to leave his post if AT&amp;T’s deal to move WarnerMedia to Discovery goes through next year, which makes this a great time to chat with Recode’s Peter Kafka.
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 WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar’s almost-exit interview

BuzzFeed used to be an internet experiment. Now it’s a publicly-traded company that expects more than $500 million in revenue this year. CEO Jonah Peretti talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the route his company took to the NASDAQ; why he’s not worried about investors who bailed on the company; and the state of labor negotiations with the BuzzFeed News union.

Featuring: Jonah Peretti (@peretti), CEO of BuzzFeed
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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BuzzFeed CEO Jonah Peretti has gone public

Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey is no longer the CEO of Twitter. Why did he leave? And what does the choice of his successor, Parag Agrawal, tell us about Twitter’s future? Bloomberg’s Kurt Wagner sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss Dorsey's tenure as CEO and the reasons behind his decision to step down. Then the New Yorker’s Sheelah Kolhatkar joins the show to talk about the Biden administration’s campaign to rein in Big Tech. Kolhatkar recently profiled Lina Khan, an antitrust academic who now heads up the FTC. Khan and other Biden appointees want to reframe antitrust law and shrink tech giants like Facebook, which was not part of Biden’s election campaign. What changed?

﻿Featuring: Kurt Wagner (@KurtWagner8), Reporter for Bloomberg Business
Sheelah Kolhatkar (@sheelahk) Staff Writer at The New Yorker
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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@Jack is leaving Twitter. What now? + Lina Khan’s battle with Big Tech

Rhys Thomas used to make short films for Saturday Night Live. Now he’s making Hawkeye, the newest installment of Disney’s Marvel Cinematic Universe, which debuts on Disney+ this week. Thomas sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to give a behind-the-scenes look at producing the series and how his previous work at SNL and IFC’s Documentary Now prepared him for his entry into the superhero world.

﻿Featuring: Rhys Thomas (@rhysthom2), Executive Producer of Marvel's Hawkeye
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Director Rhys Thomas on his unlikely journey from SNL to Disney’s Hawkeye

HBO has brought us nearly 50 years of riveting movies and TV shows; the behind-the-scenes stories are equally compelling. Journalist James Andrew Miller, who has written definitive oral histories of media institutions like Saturday Night Live and ESPN, tells Recode’s Peter Kafka about his newest work: Tinderbox: HBO’s Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers. Included in their chat: How HBO ascended to power; why attempts to combine the company with Apple and other suitors never happened; what really happened when AT&amp;T decided to buy and then sell HBO’s parent company; and what happens to HBO in a world where it competes with deep-pocketed rivals like Netflix and Disney.

﻿Featuring: Jim Miller (@jimmiller), Journalist and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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The inside story of HBO, with Jim Miller

Twitter is free. But Twitter Blue — a new service for Twitter super-users — costs $3 a month. So what is Twitter Blue and why should you pay for it? Twitter product executive Tony Haile, who joined the company last spring after it acquired his Scroll startup, joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to make the pitch.

Featuring: Tony Haile (@arctictony), Senior Director of Product at Twitter
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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What is Twitter Blue and is it worth $3?

Before Mark Zuckerberg told the world he was turning Facebook into a Metaverse company, he called Matthew Ball, one of the Metaverse’s chief evangelists. Now Ball tells Recode’s Peter Kafka what Facebook’s move means.

Then Bloomberg Media Group CEO Justin Smith talks about building a $100 million subscriptions business that’s separate - but related to - Bloomberg’s much larger terminal business. And why he loves video - but not podcasts.

Featuring: Matthew Ball (@ballmatthew), writer and Venture Capitalist
Justin Smith (@Justin_B_Smith), CEO of Bloomberg Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Facebook’s Metaverse explained - by metaverse explainer Matthew Ball. Plus Justin Smith builds a media biz for Bloomb

Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen is handing over thousands of documents to reporters like The Verge’s Alex Heath. The next step: Sorting through all of those files, and figuring out how and when to write about them. Heath talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the weeks of stories we’ll be reading in the future, and his first one - about Facebook’s rapidly aging user base. 

And then for something completely different: Saturday Night Live cast member Heidi Gardner joins to talk about her unlikely path into comedy, making live TV during Covid, and thinking about a life after SNL.

Featuring: Alex Heath (@alexeheath), Senior Reporter for The Verge
Heidi Garder (@heidilgardner), actress and comedian for Saturday Night Live
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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How to cover the Facebook leaks + SNL’s Heidi Gardner

Neil Vogel had no publishing experience before he took over About.com, the how-to website he turned into Dotdash for owner Barry Diller. Now Vogel is about to become one of the most powerful people in media if he completes a deal to acquire magazine heavyweight Meredith - the people behind People, InStyle, and Better Homes &amp; Gardens. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about merging an online-only operation with a print publisher.

Featuring: Neil Vogel (@neilvogel), CEO of Dotdash
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Dotdash CEO Neil Vogel on his $2.7 billion Meredith deal

Steve Jobs co-founded Apple and infused it with his love of product design and attention to detail. His successor, Tim Cook, is widely perceived as lacking Jobs’ vision and innovation. But he managed to do something Jobs never could: make Apple the most valuable company on the planet. So who are these two men, and how have their leadership styles shaped the company that shapes our lives?

Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Land of the Giants: "He's No Steve Jobs"

Five days after the New York Times’ Ben Smith wrote an astonishing piece about the fakery supporting Ozy Media, the digital publisher announced it was shutting down. What, if anything, does the fiasco tell us about media startups and investors? Smith teases it out with Recode’s Peter Kafka. Then Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch drops by for a progress report on his attempt to turn the magazine giant into a modern entertainment company - and an update on Apple’s News+ service.

Featuring: Ben Smith (@benyt), Media Columnist for The New York Times
Roger Lynch (@rogerlynch), CEO of Condé Nast
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Ozy Media, RIP with NYT’s Ben Smith + Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on remaking a magazine giant

More consolidation in Hollywood - but this time it’s talent agency CAA buying rival ICM. Puck’s Dylan Byers sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to explain why the streaming boom has created another merger. Then, podcaster and game streaming expert Bijan Stephen joins for an update on Twitch and its new “hate raid” problem - and what the platform and the community are doing to fight back against trolls.

Featuring: Dylan Byers (@DylanByers), Senior Correspondent at Puck News
Bijan Stephen (@bijanstephen), Host &amp; Executive Producer of Eclipsed for Campside Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Streamers shrink Hollywood, again + What’s a “Hate Raid”?

Peter Thiel used to be a Silicon Valley investor best-known for early investment in Facebook. But in recent years he seems to have shifted into something different: A Trump-supporting billionaire who wants to remake American politics - and someone who nursed a years-long grudge against Gawker and ultimately bankrupted the publisher and its owner. Bloomberg’s Max Chafkin details Thiel’s story in his new book The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power; he talks about what animates Thiel, and why he thinks we’ll be hearing from him and about him for a long time. Then Vox Media’s Joe Posner joins to talk about making videos for YouTube, Netflix, and HBO which is now airing his newest show: Level Playing Field.

Featuring: Max Chafkin (@chafkin), Author and Bloomberg reporter
Joe Posner (@joeposner), of Vox Video
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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How Peter Thiel went from Silicon Valley to The White House with Max Chafkin

Instagram is no longer going to be a photo-sharing app, Instagram boss Adam Mosseri announced earlier this summer. So what is Instagram going to be instead? Mosseri talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about his plans to emphasize video and commerce for the service, competing with Tik-Tok, and looming regulation. Mosseri also talks about recent revelations in the Wall Street Journal about Instagram’s own research, which suggests the app could be harmful to a segment of its users, particularly teenagers. Then Kafka talks to Puck co-founder Jon Kelly about his news site’s recent launch, and what sets it apart from other subscription-based news services.

Featuring: Adam Mosseri (@mosseri), Head of Instagram
Jon Kelly (@JonKelly2), Co-Founder of Puck
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Instagram boss Adam Mosseri on teenagers, Tik-Tok and paying creators

Mark Gurman has been one of the best-sourced Apple reporters since he was in high school. Literally. Now he’s at Bloomberg, with deep insight into Apple’s new product line - new iPhones this year, new “mixed reality” headsets next year - and its political and philosophical ideology - why it's fighting regulation in courtrooms and capitols around the world. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the future of the world’s most valuable tech company.

Featuring: Mark Gurman (@markgurman) Tech Reporter at Bloomberg
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Big changes at Apple: New phones, new AR glasses, and big app store changes.

Defector Media launched a year ago as a digital publishing experiment: What if the former staff of Deadspin built and owned their own site, fueled entirely by subscriptions? Now it looks like we have an answer: It’s working, really well. Editor in chief Tom Ley walks Recode’s Peter Kafka through Defector’s financials and argues that a site that runs on readers’ dollars instead of advertisers is more fun to work at and to read.

Featuring: Tom Ley (@ToLey88) Co-Founder and Editor-In-Chief of Defector Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Defector Media: Life after Deadspin is good (and profitable)

What is OnlyFans, and why did OnlyFans abandon and then come back to its primary business model in the span of a week? MEL Magazine’s Magdalene Taylor joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to explain the rise of the NSFW platform, and why some banks are reluctant to work with a company that consumers seem to love. Then BuzzFeed News’ Joe Bernstein talks about his recent story on the disinformation/misinformation industry, which isn’t exactly what we think it is.

Featuring: Magdalene Taylor(@magdajtaylor), Staff Writer for MEL Magazine
Joe Bernstein (@Bernstein), Senior Technology Reporter for BuzzFeed News
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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OnlyFans’ weird week with MEL’s Magdalene Taylor; BuzzFeed’s Joe Bernstein on the problem with our misinformation problem.

Nick Khan used to be a CAA agent who represented the WWE. Now he’s president of the pro wrestling company and is pivoting it from a direct-to-consumer strategy into a content studio for the likes of Peacock and Fox. Khan tells Recode’s Peter Kafka why the WWE has abandoned its pioneering streaming model, how he’s managing the company through covid, and what got him into the TV business.

Featuring: Nick Khan, WWE President &amp; Chief Revenue Officer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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WWE’s Nick Khan on pivoting his streaming strategy and getting back in the ring

The New York Times’ Shira Ovide, writes the popular and incisive “On Tech” newsletter, which means she gets to write about… everything. She sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss some her latest stories in her column like why “Tech Can’t Fix Everything”, how society rather than social media itself is more to blame for the spread of misinformation, and the pros and cons of writing a popular newsletter.

Featuring: Shira Ovide (@ShiraOvide), tech writer for The New York Times
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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NYT’s Shira Ovide on the everything and nothingness of tech.

Puck News Hollywood expert Matthew Belloni sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss the biggest stories in the past week: Reese Witherspoon’s new $900M deal and the lawsuit between Scarlett Johansson and Disney. Then, The Atlantic’s Derek Thompson joins the show to discuss how the media has been reporting on COVID-19 recently, especially now that the concerns of the Delta variant begin to increase.

Featuring: Matthew Belloni (@MattBelloni) Hollywood editor at Puck News
Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) writer at The Atlantic
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Reese’s $900 million deal; ScarJo vs Disney with Matt Belloni, + Derek Thompson on how the media covers Delta

Stillwater was supposed to debut in theaters last fall, but the pandemic changed those plans along with everything else. Academy Award-winning director and writer Tom McCarthy explain how he used the extra time to improve the Matt Damon movie, why the film isn’t on a streaming service — and what it was like to play one of TV’s best villains in the final season of The Wire. Then, creator Kyla Scanlon joins the show to discuss her quick rise on social media from making short-form videos on finance.

Featuring: Tom McCarthy, director and writer
Kyla Scanlon (@kylascan), Content Creator and writer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Director Tom McCarthy on Stillwater, finishing a movie in a pandemic and playing one of the Wire’s best villains

Anthony Bourdain is dead. So how does a new documentary have audio of him reading his emails? It’s not him: It’s a deep fake. The New Yorker’s Helen Rosner explains. Then journalist Richard Rushfield takes us behind Hollywood’s closed doors to talk about the return of movies, the dominance of Netflix — and why he can more candid than ever because he’s writing about all of it on The Ankler, his subscription-only newsletter.

Featuring: Helen Rosner (@hels) staff writer for The New Yorker
Richard Rushfield (@richardrushfield) Editor-In-Chief of The Ankler
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Deep fakes come to the movies and Hollywood resets for the streaming era

Wall Street Journal’s Eliot Brown first became interested in WeWork back in 2014 after an encounter with founder co-founder Adam Neumann, who quickly told the reporter that he should not “think about his company as a real estate business, but as a community-building startup”. Fast forward seven years, Brown, along with his colleague Maureen Farrell, plan to release their new book The Cult of We: WeWork, Adam Neumann, and the Great Startup Delusion, which chronicles the infamous journey of one of the most talked-about companies in recent years, and how a billion-dollar business fooled Silicon Valley.

Featuring: Eliot Brown (@eliotwb), Reporter for Wall Street Journal and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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WeWork's rise and fall (and rise again?) with Eliot Brown

When are we going back to the office? How often are we going back to the office? And what’s work going to be like when we get there? Kevin Delaney is trying to answer all of those questions — and really, every question we have about the future of work — with Charter, the new media company he launched by starting a newsletter. Plus we check in with NPR’s David Gura, who is hollering — from a distance — at the tech and media moguls gathered at the annual Sun Valley conference.

Featuring: David Gura (@davidgura), podcaster and journalist at NPR
Kevin Delaney (@delaney), Co-Founder of Charter
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Kevin Delaney turns the future of work into a media business; plus a Sun Valley update from David Gura.

Roger Bennett is half of Men In Blazers, the entertaining podcast/broadcast duo dedicated to Americans who love soccer. So he’s an excellent person to talk to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the state of the world’s most popular sport, and why an attempt to create a “Super League” failed dramatically. Bennett, born and raised in Liverpool, is also a huge fan of America and Americans, which he describes in his new memoir: "(Re)Born In The USA: An Englishman’s Love Letter to His Chosen Home”.

Featuring: Roger Bennett (@rogbennett), podcaster and TV broadcaster
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Men In Blazers’ Roger Bennett loves soccer and America

Twitch, the Amazon-owned streaming platform best known as a haven for gamers, wouldn’t be the first place you’d look for a left-leaning political commentator. But Hasan Piker, also known as “HasanAbi” is thriving there: He has more than 1.5 million followers, where he comments on the news of the day during marathon sessions. Piker talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about becoming a new kind of Internet famous.

Featuring: Hasan "Abi" Piker (@hasanthehun) Twitch Streamer and Political Commentator
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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One of the most popular streamers on Twitch… is a lefty political commentator? Hasan Piker explains

The newest publication covering tech is Future — a site owned and operated by Andreessen Horowitz, the powerful Silicon Valley venture capital firm. Partner Margit Wennmachers, who used to court press coverage for her company and its portfolio companies, now wants to go directly to readers, without relying on journalists to carry her message. She explains her strategy to Recode’s Peter Kafka.

Featuring: Margit Wennmachers (@wennmachers) Partner at Andreessen Horowitz
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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One of Silicon Valley’s most powerful investors is now a media company, too

Jake Hurwitz &amp; Amir Blumenfeld got their start on the internet when making content for sites like YouTube and Facebook was considered the Wild West. Then, after an iconic run on College Humor, starring in thousands of videos over the course of 10 years, they took another leap of faith: starting the podcast network HeadGum. The duo sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss their unorthodox career as entertainers and entrepreneurs, as well as their newly launched dating app, Orion.

Featuring: Jake Hurwitz (@jakehurwitz), Comedian and Co-Founder of HeadGum
Amir Blumenfeld (@blumenfeld), Comedian and Co-Founder of HeadGum
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Jake and Amir on being Web famous, fed up with Hollywood, and podcast bosses

Journalist Rob Walker sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss why he decided to go the independent route instead of writing for another publication after his buyout from Medium, his thoughts on the creator economy, and details behind his newsletter The Art of Noticing, based on his 2019 book of the same name.

Featuring: Rob Walker (@notrobwalker), Journalist and Author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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How to make it in the creator economy with Rob Walker

The Information’s Jessica Toonkel joins Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss Amazon’s (planned) $8.5 billion acquisition of MGM. It’s the first time a big tech company has ever bought a big media asset. But why Amazon, why MGM, and what does this mean for the rest of the media world? Then podcaster pioneer Dan Taberski, comes on to discuss The Line — an Apple-commissioned series, as well as his journey into audio after a career in TV.

Featuring: Jessica Toonkel (@jtoonkel), reporter for The Information
Dan Taberski (@dtaberski), Journalist and Podcaster
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Why is Amazon buying MGM?

Jim Miller was finishing up a book about HBO and then… the story changed. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about what may change now that AT&amp;T is handing the service - along with the rest of WarnerMedia — to Discovery. Then writer, producer, and director Alan Yang join to discuss his career, the upcoming season of the Netflix hit Master of None which he co-created with comedian Aziz Ansari, and what he thinks of the current state of the movie and TV industry.

Featuring: Jim Miller (@jimmiller), Reporter and Author
Alan Yang (@alanyang), Writer, Director, and Producer
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Jim Miller on HBO’s new home; Alan Yang on a very different season of “Master of None”

AT&amp;T bought WarnerMedia three years ago for more than $100 billion, so it could chase after Netflix. Now it’s getting out of streaming, and every other part of the media business. What happened? And what happens next? NYT media reporter Edmund Lee has a reunion with Recode’s Peter Kafka to discuss.

Featuring: Edmund Lee (@edmundlee), media reporter for The New York Times
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Why did AT&T just bail on WarnerMedia? And what happens next?

Antonio García Martínez used to work at Facebook, and wrote a book about it. In April, he started working at Apple, and weeks later he was gone, after Apple employees revolted. Martinez talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about why he went to work for Apple, why he left, and what he thinks of the criticism of him and his writing.

Featuring: Antonio Garcia Martinez (@antoniogm)
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Antonio García Martínez's controversial exit from Apple

The concert business has been shut down for a year, which means that Live Nation, the world’s dominant concert promoter and ticket seller, has been shut down, too. CEO Michael Rapino sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about the industry’s comeback, how his company survived without revenue, and how he’s figured out new tricks, like a subscription model.

Featuring: Michael Rapino (@Michael_Rapino), President &amp; CEO of Live Nation
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
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Live music is back! Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino can't wait

Bloomberg's Brad Stone and Recode's Jason Del Rey report on all things Amazon and Jeff Bezos. They discuss how Bezos built his global empire and Stone's new book 'Amazon Unbound.'

Featuring: Brad Stone (@BradStone), Tech writer for Bloomberg, and Author
Guest Host: Jason Del Rey (@DelRey), Senior Correspondent at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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The Jeff Bezos Empire with Brad Stone & Jason Del Rey

The antitrust trial between Apple and Fortnite’s parent company Epic Games is underway, so Apple observer John Gruber talks about Apple’s App Store problem with Recode’s Peter Kafka. Then, historian Jill Lepore joins to discuss her podcast The Last Archive, which looks at the demise of truth and the rise of doubt in American history - and why it matters to us today.

Featuring: John Gruber (@gruber), of Daring Fireball
Jill Lepore, writer for the New York Times and host of The Last Archive
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Apple vs Epic with John Gruber; Truth, Doubt and History with Jill Lepore

AMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan checks in with Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about his company’s pivot from TV to streaming, and what it’s like to be a smaller fish in the video pond.

Featuring: Josh Sapan (@JWSAPAN), CEO of AMC Networks
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
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AMC Networks can’t compete with Netflix. CEO Josh Sapan is fine with that.

The Oscars are supposed to be a celebration for Hollywood, but this year it feels like a collapse: The pandemic has altered the slate of movies up for awards - and, crucially, seems to have removed most of the TV audience for Sunday’s show. Slate’s Allegra Frank and Vox’s Alissa Wilkinson talk to Recode’s Peter Kafka about what all of this means for the movie business and for moviegoers. Then The Ringer’s Rob Harvilla explains why he’s spending a year praising 60 Songs That Explain the 90s on his podcast series, and what it’s like to write music criticism you’re supposed to hear instead of read.

Featuring: Allegra Frank (@LegsFrank) , Senior Editor at Slate
Alissa Wilkinson (@AlissaMarie) Film Critic at Vox
Rob Harvilla (@harvilla) Staff writer at The Ringer and host of 60s Songs That Explain The 90s
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Did the pandemic kill the Oscars?

Apple’s selling podcasts. Facebook wants to distribute podcasts - and take on Clubhouse, too. It’s been a busy couple days for big tech and audio, so Vox Media producer Zach Mack stopped by to talk to Recode’s Peter Kafka and sort through the news. What does all of this mean for creators? What about listeners? And what happens next?

Featuring: Zach Mack (@zachthemack), Senior Producer for the Vox Media Podcast Network
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Apple and Facebook's ambitious audio plans

Substack is known for recruiting high profile writers to leave the big name publications and start their own newsletter businesses. Now it wants to recruit writers you haven’t heard of, and get them to cover local news. Cofounders Chris Best and Hamish McKenzie talk to Recode’s Peter Kafka about their plans — as well as criticism and controversy their startup has kicked up in the last year.

Featuring: Chris Best (@cjgbest) Co-Founder of Substack
Hamish McKenzie (@hamishmckenzie) Co-Founder of Substack
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Substack’s next target: Local news

NFT’s have been rising in popularity in recent months with franchises like the NBA partnering with Roham Gharegozlou’s Dapper Labs to create Top Shot, or UTA’s Brent Weinstein assisting entertainers to take advantage of it as well. Recode’s Peter Kafka speaks to both of them about their journey getting into NFT’s and blockchain, as well as The Verge’s Mitchell Clark who breaks down the industry as a whole.

Featuring: Roham Gharegozlou (@rohamg) , CEO of Dapper Labs
Mitchell Clark (@strawberrywell), reporter for The Verge
Brent Weinstein (@brentweinstein), Partner &amp; Chief Innovator Officer for UTA
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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How Hollywood and the NBA are betting on NFTs

Warner Media CEO Jason Kilar started his job in the middle of a global pandemic. Things got even weirder after that. Kilar talks with Recode’s Peter Kafka about his controversial plan to stream big movies on HBO Max, and how he’ll change that in 2022. Plus thoughts on sports, CNN, and Amazon, where he got his start.

Featuring: Jason Kilar (@jasonkilar), CEO of Warner Media
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar on a wild first year on the job

Why is every digital media company talking about a SPAC? Why now? And what, exactly is a SPAC? Axios’ Dan Primack and WSJ’s Ben Mullin talk to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the wave of deal-making, what it means, and how long it will last.

Featuring: Dan Primack (@danprimack), Business Editor at Axios
Ben Mullin (@BenMullin), Media Reporter at The Wall Street Journal
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Media Merger Mania with Axios’ Dan Primack and WSJ’s Ben Mullin

David Dobrik was one of YouTube’s biggest stars. Now his career is in peril after an expose by Business Insider’s Kat Tenbarge; she talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka to talk about her story. Then The Markup’s Julia Angwin talks about her site’s efforts to peer into Facebook’s black box and an update on her non-profit newsroom.

Featuring: Kat Tenbarge (@kattenbarge), Reporter for Business Insider
Julia Angwin (@JuliaAngwin), Editor-In-Chief of The Mark Up
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
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The rise and maybe fall of YouTube star David Dobrik; inside Facebook with the Markup’s Julia Angwin

Like many of us last year, Christina “Tinx” Najjar decided to download TikTok on a whim. Unlike many of us, she has become a TikTok star, with close to a million followers and lots of brands knocking on her door. She sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to detail her journey on how she did it. Then Vox’s Rebecca Jennings joins Peter to break down the business and economics of being an influencer.

Featuring: Christina "Tinx" Najjar (@itsmetinx), Comedian and Social Media Influencer
Rebecca Jennings (@rebexxxxa), Internet Culture reporter at Vox
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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How Christina “Tinx” Najjar became a TikTok star overnight

The pandemic changed everything - including the media landscape. What happens when things get back to mostly normal? ESPN’s Brian Windhorst, The Verge’s Bijan Stephen, and Lightshed’s Rich Greenfield talk about the way big-time sports, streaming, TV, movies, and gaming all responded to the pandemic, and predict what happens next.

﻿Featuring: Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN), NBA Reporter for ESPN
Bijan Stephen (@bijanstephen), reporter for The Verge
Rich Greenfield (@RichLightShed), General Partner at Lightshed Ventures
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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How did - and didn’t - the pandemic transform media?

Fubo TV wants to take on the giants in streaming and in sports betting. Investors have sky-high expectations and skeptics think it will never work. Fubo TV CEO David Gandler talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about the way his company has evolved since he founded it in 2015, and what it’s like to run a public company in the Gamestop/Reddit age.

﻿Featuring: David Gandler (@davidgandler), Co-Founder &amp; CEO of Fubo TV
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
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Fubo TV is a Reddit meme stock. CEO David Gandler has bigger ambitions.

Paramount Plus and Discovery Plus are the latest, and perhaps the last big streaming services to launch in a very crowded market. Recode’s Peter Kafka asks The Verge’s Julia Alexander to assess the new entrants and the overall state of the Streaming Wars. Then, New York Times tech columnist Kevin Roose talks about his latest book, Futureproof: Nine Rules For Humans In The Age of Automation. It’s a guide to thriving - or at least surviving - in a fast-approaching future where technology will displace many careers, while also creating new ones.

Featuring: Julia Alexander (@loudmouthjulia), reporter at The Verge
Kevin Roose (@kevinroose), New York Times tech columnist and author
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
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Have we hit peak streaming? + NYT’s Kevin Roose on his new book “Futureproof”

Facebook and Google faced off against Australia and Rupert Murdoch. Who won? Recode’s Peter Kafka asks his colleague Sara Morrison to explain. Then, comedian and actor Al Madrigal stops by to discuss his career in stand-up comedy; what it’s like to make TV shows during a pandemic, and how he started the very popular All Things Comedy podcast network with fellow comedian Bill Burr.

Featuring: Sara Morrison (@SaraMorrison), reporter at Recode
Al Madrigal (@almadrigal), Comedian, Podcaster, Actor
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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Australia vs. Facebook;  Al Madrigal means business about All Things Comedy

Pandora founder and former CEO Tim Westergren is back in the music business with Sessions, a live-streaming service well-timed for the pandemic. He talks with Recode’s Peter Kafka about what happens when people start seeing live shows in person again - and the lessons he learned running a music service that used to be ubiquitous, but got side-swiped by Spotify and the on-demand era.

Featuring: Tim Westergren (@timwestergren), founder of Pandora &amp; co-founder of Sessions
Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode
More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape.
About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.
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