Kara and Scott discuss the apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and what impact (if any) this will have on the election. Then, Tiktok has its day in court, the Biden administration cracks down on Shein and Temu, and what we're learning about OpenAI's future plans. Our Friend of Pivot is longtime tech journalist Evan Ratliff, who embarked on AI experiment with his new podcast, "Shell Game." Plus, Kara and Scott share some fun stories from the big birthday weekend in Scotland.

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Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft's plan to reopen Three Mile Island to power its data centers, and Qualcomm's potential takeover of Intel. Then, Nike gets a new CEO, but will the corporate shake-up get Nike back in the game? Plus, Trump's bizarre messaging around abortion, and Kamala Harris's attempt to get another debate on the calendar. Our Friends of Pivot are New York Times reporters Kate Conger and Ryan Mac, who are out with a new book, "Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter." Kate and Ryan share behind-the-scenes stories from Elon's Twitter takeover, and weigh in on the latest chaos in Elon-land.
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Nike's CEO Shake-up, Trump's "Deranged" Messaging, and Guests Kate Conger and Ryan Mac

Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's crypto plans, and Melania's bizarre promotional videos for her book. Then, Instagram is rolling out teen accounts, with default privacy for users under 18, messaging restrictions, and more. Will these changes do some actual good, or will they just help Instagram avoid scrutiny and regulation? Plus, the Fed makes a major rate cut – what does that mean for consumers and investors? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is actor and writer, Justin Theroux. Justin chats about his new movie, "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice," how he's experimenting with AI, and why he's a Pivot superfan.

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Instagram's Teen Accounts, Fed Rate Cut, and Guest Justin Theroux

TikTok in Court, Shein and Temu Crackdown, and Guest Evan Ratliff

Kara and Scott discuss the highs and lows of the presidential debate, the potential power of Taylor Swift's endorsement, and Elon's creepy offer. Then, Kara shares what she saw at Apple's big "Glowtime" event, and what to expect from the newest AI products. Plus, a listener mail question on the role of parents when it comes to keeping kids safe online.
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Debate Reax, Taylor's Endorsement, Apple's AI Upgrades

Kara and Scott discuss the court battle over Rupert Murdoch's empire set to get underway this week. Then, Google and the DOJ are facing off for another major trial, this time Google is facing antitrust claims about its ad business. Plus, predictions on the presidential debate. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are sports icons, Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe, who are now offering expert analysis every week on their podcast, "A Touch More." Sue and Megan talk about how women's sports has become a booming business, the pros and cons of athletes using social media, and the importance of being politically engaged.
Check out Vox Media's "A Touch More: The Podcast" weekly on Wednesdays on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify.
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Google Antitrust Redux, Debate Predictions, and Guests Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe

Kara and Scott are reunited and it feels so good! They talk about the latest election polls, tech stocks continuing to struggle, and Apple's role in child safety legislation. Then, after Brazil blocks X, will other countries take on Elon Musk? Plus, what the heck is founder mode and why is everyone in Silicon Valley talking about it? Finally, a listener mail question about the future of Trump Media, as the stock plummets to new lows.

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X Blocked in Brazil, Nvidia Wipeout, and the Fuss Over Founder Mode

There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of becoming law. It’s called KOSPA: the Kids Online Safety and Privacy Act, which passed in the Senate with overwhelming bipartisan support late last month. At a high level, KOSPA could radically change how tech platforms handle speech in an effort to try and make the internet safer for minors. 
Nilay Patel talks with Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who’s been covering these bills for months now, to explain what’s happening, what these bills actually do, and what the path forward for this legislation looks like.
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Decoder with Nilay Patel: What's Next for the Controversial 'Child Safety' Internet Bill

Kara is joined by her brother Jeff Swisher, her son Louie Swisher, and best friend of Pivot George Hahn! They discuss the upcoming debate rules and the state of the race, Mark Zuckerberg saying he felt “pressured” to “censor” Covid-19 content, and burnout among teachers and parents. Also a new COVID-19 vaccine is here – when should you get it? Then, a discussion on rawdogging flights… because why not?
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Zuck Under Pressure, Presidential Debate Rules, and New Covid Vaccines

Kara and guest host Adam Grant discuss whether Democrats can keep running on the politics of joy, the contrasting types of masculinity on the ballot, and the effective leadership tactics that everyone can learn from this election cycle. Plus, what the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov means for social media platforms and tech execs. Then, our Friend of Pivot is Anupreeta Das, a New York Times journalist, and the author of the new book, "Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World." Anupreeta explains how Bill Gates has shape-shifted for better and for worse over the years.

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The Politics of Joy, Telegram CEO Arrested, and Guest Host Adam Grant

Laura Coates joins Kara as co-host to discuss all things DNC! Top speakers, funny moments, and better vibes than the RNC. And of course, Tim Walz’s pep talk for the country. Plus, the latest on the race: RFK Jr. plans to drop out and endorse former President Trump. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham.
Watch Kara and Scott’s interviews with Congressman Maxwell Frost, and Senators Michael Bennet, Mark Kelly and Amy Klobuchar on our YouTube channel here.
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All Things DNC, Election Updates, and Guest Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham

Pivot is at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago! Scott is stuck outside the security perimeter, but you'll still hear from him. Meanwhile, Kara sits down with CNN'S Audie Cornish and Politico's Eli Stokols to break down what Harris and the Democrats need to accomplish this week, and whether it matters that Harris hasn't done an interview since becoming the Democratic candidate. Plus, Governor Tim Walz joins TikTok with his signature dad humor. Can a TikTok ticket translate into actual votes?
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Convention Kickoff, Kamala Reshapes the Electoral Map, and TimTok Arrives

Comedian Mike Birbiglia joins Kara to discuss the legal backlash to President Trump and Elon Musk's X event, the role of humor in the Harris campaign, and Starbucks tapping Chipotle’s CEO. Plus, Governor Gavin Newsom wants schools to restrict cellphone use, and streamer Tubi is defying expectations. Then, Mike answers your questions! Did he influence J.D. Vance’s love of couches? How does he approach storytelling? And most importantly…is Scott funny?

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The Harris Campaign's Got Jokes, Tubi's Taking Over, and Mike Birbiglia's Our Co-Host

Kara is joined by guest host Mehdi Hasan to discuss Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount announcing major write-offs for their cable assets, and Elon Musk facing yet another lawsuit. Then, what the latest poll numbers reveal about the state of the presidential race, plus Donald Trump's false claims that Kamala Harris rally photos are AI-generated. Our Friend of Pivot is Anthony Scaramucci, former White House Communications Director, and the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital. The Mooch explains why he thinks major changes are coming to the Trump campaign, and shares a wild prediction about the race.
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Trump's AI Accusations, Cable TV Challenges, and Guest Anthony Scaramucci

Noel King joins Kara as co-host to discuss the latest global market moves, NASA needing help from SpaceX, and whether empathy punishments work. Then, Tim Walz joins the Democratic ticket, how will the GOP campaign against him ? Plus, X has filed a federal antitrust suit against advertisers. Then, Noel and Kara make predictions on who will play Tim Walz on SNL, and what celebs the invigorated Democratic National Convention will attract.
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Tim Walz, X vs. Advertisers, and Global Markets Bounce Back

Kara and Scott discuss the global stock market sell-off, and why people shouldn't panic. Then, Berkshire Hathaway unloads nearly half of its stake in Apple as the company's cash stockpile increases, and what's behind the reported growing tensions between Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. Plus, Donald Trump ditches the previously scheduled ABC debate, and insists on Fox News or nothing. Our Friend of Pivot is Jonathan Kanter, the Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's Antitrust Division. Jonathan gives his immediate reaction to the landmark Google antitrust ruling, and explains the repercussions for tech and beyond.
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Stock Market Sell-Off, Google Antitrust Verdict, and Guest Jonathan Kanter

Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's disastrous interview at the National Association of Black Journalists’ conference, the hundreds of VCs pledging their support to Kamala Harris, and the narrowing VP race. Plus, the latest earnings from Meta and Microsoft, and the Senate finally takes action with online regulation for kids. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Democratic Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis.
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Trump's Interview Disaster, The Kids Online Safety Act, and Governor Jared Polis

Kara and Scott discuss Biden's proposal to reform the Supreme Court, and Rupert Murdoch's real-life succession drama. Then, Elon is dealing with some family drama of his own, as his estranged daughter and his ex's mother call him out on social media. He also seems to have violated his own platform's policies, by sharing a deep fake of a Kamala Harris ad. Plus, Donald Trump courts the Bitcoin bros and Christian voters, as Kamala raises millions. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Anne Applebaum, staff writer at The Atlantic, and author of "Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World." Anne explains how the current group of world autocrats will stop at nothing to gain absolute power, and digs into the dangers of a Trump second term.
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Murdoch Succession Drama, Trump's Voting Promises, and Guest Anne Applebaum

Kara and Scott discuss Kamala Harris's poll numbers in the face of GOP attacks, Biden's farewell speech, and what Taylor Swift will do about it all. Then, tech stocks tumble after underwhelming earnings reports from Tesla and Alphabet. Then we’re joined by our Friend of Pivot, Dr. Anthony Fauci, to talk about his new memoir, “On Call: A Doctor’s Journey in Public Service.”
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Tech Stocks Tumble, Kamala's Momentum, and Guest Dr. Anthony Fauci

Kara and Scott discuss Joe Biden passing the torch to Kamala Harris, and how she'll do against Trump. Also, who will be her VP? Friend of Pivot, New York Times Opinion Columnist Lydia Polgreen joins them to discuss. Then, the ongoing fallout from the CrowdStrike update that caused 8.5 million devices to crash on Friday.
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Kamala’s Presidential Run, CrowdStrike’s Meltdown, and Guest Lydia Polgreen

Kara and Scott discuss Biden's campaign crisis, and what happens next. Then, a number of Kara's favorite tech bros are lining up behind Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. How much influence could they have if Trump wins the election? Plus, Elon plans to relocate X and SpaceX to Texas, and Google is in talks for its largest acquisition ever.
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Biden Campaign Crisis, Trump and the Tech Bros, and Elon Exits California

Kara and Scott react to the news of Donald Trump's VP pick, J.D. Vance, in real time. Then, they discuss whether Americans can actually "lower the temperature," following the Trump assassination attempt. Plus, a closer look at the conspiracy theories and misinformation now swirling around social media, and how Elon Musk is trying to shape the narrative. Our Friend of Pivot is David Plouffe, former Obama campaign manager, and current co-host of "The Campaign Managers" podcast. David explains what's changed (and what hasn't) about the presidential race following the shooting, and whether the calls for Biden to drop out will now go away.
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Trump VP Pick, Assassination Attempt Aftermath, and Guest David Plouffe

Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft and Apple ditching OpenAI board seats, the proposed ban on congressional stock trading, and Tesla's EV market share dipping below 50% for the first time. Then, calls for Biden to drop out of the race are mounting, but will the president just wait out the clock? Plus, what the GOP's new platform reveals about a Trump second term, including the implications for Big Tech. Finally, a listener question on deciding where to go for college.
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Biden on the Defensive, Trump's Threats, and Congressional Stock Trading

Kara and Scott discuss Biden's decision to stay in the race, and what alternate scenarios might look like. Then, after months of negotiations, the Paramount and Skydance merger appears to be (finally) happening. Plus, Apple gets a seat on OpenAI's board, and Threads turns one. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brian Derrick, a political strategist, and the founder and CEO of Oath, a fundraising platform that aims to maximize campaign donations. Brian explains how donors are reacting to Biden's continued candidacy, and reveals the high-stakes statewide elections that people should be paying attention to.

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Biden's Future, Paramount Skydance Merger, and Guest Brian Derrick

Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher.
Kara interviews Mira Murati, Chief Technology Officer at OpenAI, and one of the most powerful people in tech. Murati has helped the company skyrocket to the forefront of the generative AI boom, and Apple’s recent announcement that it will soon put ChatGPT in its iPhones, iPads and laptops will only help increase their reach. But there have been some issues along the way - including CEO Sam Altman's brief ouster, accusations of putting profit over safety, and the controversy over whether the company stole Scarlett Johansson's voice. Kara and Murati discuss it all.

This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their new Discovery Series.
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OpenAI CTO Mira Murati on ScarJo Controversy, Sam Altman & Disinfo Fears | On With Kara Swisher

Pivot’s special series on the future of travel wraps up with a last stop: planes. What exactly is happening with Boeing? How will AI play a role in aviation? And most importantly, what is everyone’s favorite, and least favorite airport? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Pete Muntean, CNN's aviation and transportation correspondent, who also happens to be a pilot and flight instructor.
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Future of Travel: How is Aviation Innovating?

Kara and Scott discuss the Supreme Court's Trump immunity ruling, and some of the controversial opinions from this term. Then, frustrations, fears, and theories after Biden's disastrous debate. Plus, Amazon prepares to compete in the on-demand fashion arena with Shein and Temu. Can it be a contender? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Kim Scott, a former Google and Apple executive, and the author of "Radical Respect: How To Work Together Better." Kim explains how to effectively manage employees with respect, as well as candor.

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Debate Aftermath, Amazon Takes on Shein, and Guest Kim Scott

Kara and Scott discuss Nvidia’s roller coaster week, Waymo making robotaxis available for everyone in San Francisco, and what's next for Julian Assange after his release. Then, the Supreme Court rules in favor of the Biden administration in a social media content moderation case. Will that set a precedent for future social media/misinformation rulings? Plus, Volkswagen gives Rivian a $5 billion shot in the arm. Is the deal a win-win for both companies? Finally, a listener challenges Scott on whether OpenAI should really be a for-profit company.
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SCOTUS Social Media Ruling, VW Rivian Deal, and Nvidia Stock Roller Coaster

Pivot's special series on the future of travel rolls on — next stop, electric vehicles. Is the slowdown in EV sales a temporary blip, or part of a larger trend? When will individuals get a piece of charging station revenues? And what will be the ultimate gamechanger to get people to buy these cars? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Beia Spiller, an energy economist, and the Transportation Program Director for Resources for the Future.

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Future of Travel: Is It Boom or Bust Time for EVs?

Kara and Scott roll their eyes over the latest Elon stories, including the news of his 12th child, and his criticism of Melinda French Gates’ political donations. Then, are longtime adversaries Apple and Meta putting their differences aside for a new AI partnership? Plus, with the presidential debate just a few days away, Kara and Scott share their advice for the candidates. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brené Brown, host of the Vox Media podcasts, "Unlocking Us" and "Dare to Lead." Brené explains why she stepped away from podcasting (and why she returned), what worries her about social media, and how people can deal with election anxiety.
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Debate Prep, Apple and Meta's Potential AI Partnership, and Guest Brené Brown

Kara and Scott are live at Cannes! They discuss Elon's plan to win back advertisers, and the Surgeon General's proposal for warning labels on social media. Then, what brands are using AI most effectively right now? Plus, the EU's hard-right parties just harnessed the youth vote in recent elections. What role will the younger generation of voters play in the upcoming U.S. presidential election?
Recorded on June 18th at the AdWeek House in Cannes, France
DISCLAIMER/ONLY IN CANNES: Our live taping of Pivot in Cannes had some brief competition from the Olympic torch passing by. That led to some mild audio interference at the top of the show. We've minimized it as much as possible, and hope it doesn't impact your enjoyment!

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Elon's About-Face, Surgeon General's New Warning, and AI in Ads

All aboard for Pivot's special series on the future of travel, examining the big changes coming to the way we get around the world! Will 2024 be the year that high-speed rail becomes reality in the United States? How did the U.S. get so far behind other countries? And what cities have the best train systems? On this episode, Kara and Scott talk trains with Yonah Freemark, the principal research associate at the Urban Institute, who also writes the blog, The Transport Politic.
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Future of Travel: Is High-Speed Rail Finally Happening in the U.S.?

Kara and Scott discuss the drama surrounding the Washington Post's new publisher and incoming editor, as well as Amazon's One Medical facing questions about its call centers. Then, Stanford's Internet Observatory, a prominent disinformation research group, is facing an uncertain future amid ongoing political attacks. Plus, OpenAI announces its newest board member, and might be moving closer to becoming a for-profit company. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is California State Senator Scott Wiener. Senator Wiener is working to pass an AI regulation bill, but not everyone in Silicon Valley is happy about it.

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Washington Post Drama, OpenAI IPO Rumblings, and Guest Scott Wiener

Kara and Scott discuss North Dakota voting in favor of placing age restrictions on congressional candidates, X making likes private, and Tesla shareholders voting on Elon Musk’s pay package. Then, Apple stock is surging after the company revealed its AI plans, and Paramount’s merger talks with Skydance fall apart. Plus, a listener question on the latest drama with Justice Alito.
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Apple’s AI Pop, The Fate of Paramount, and Elon’s Eventful Week

Kara and Scott discuss Apple finally unveiling AI plans. Can it pull ahead in the AI race? Then, Sandy Hook families may finally get some of their settlement, as Alex Jones moves to liquidate his assets. Plus, AI start-up Perplexity is in hot water with news publishers, Amazon expands its robotaxi testing to more cities, and a proposed Texas Stock Exchange throws its hat in the ring. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are Wall Street Journal investigative reporter, Brody Mullins, and Politico contributing writer, Luke Mullins. The Mullin Brothers have written a new book, "The Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government," and they explain how tech companies changed the lobbying game.
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Apple Intelligence, The Texas Stock Exchange, and Guests Brody and Luke Mullins

Kara and Scott discuss New York's plan to regulate social media for kids, X's new rules on adult content, and Shane Smith's latest venture at Vice. Then, federal regulators move forward with antitrust investigations in the AI sector, while Nvidia surges to a $3 trillion market cap, and gets ready for a stock split. Plus, a group of current and former OpenAI employees call for transparency and whistleblower protections. Finally, a listener question about the recent ruling that blocks Fearless Fund from issuing grants to Black female entrepreneurs.
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AI Antitrust Investigations, Nvidia Stock Split, and OpenAI Whistleblowers

Kara and Scott discuss the Paramount/Skydance merger, the Washington Post's major changes at the top, and Salesforce's worst trading day in 20 years. Then, Google is in damage control mode after a document leak raises questions about search, and its new AI Overviews feature goes viral for all the wrong reasons. Plus, Tesla shareholders are getting ready to vote on reinstating Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar pay package. Will Elon come out on top? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is CNN's Chief Legal Analyst Elie Honig. Elie discusses his New York Magazine column on why he believes the Trump hush money case was flawed, and he looks ahead to next month's sentencing.
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Google Search Troubles, Trump Trial Aftermath, and Guest Elie Honig

Kara and Scott discuss what impact the Trump hush money trial outcome could have on the election, and whether a Trump second term could include Elon Musk in an advisory role. Then, OpenAI announces a new model in the works, the formation of a safety committee, and more deals with publishers. Plus, Melinda French Gates announces a $1 billion donation to support women, families, and reproductive rights. Are the ex-wives of tech billionaires creating a new era of philanthropy? Finally, Kara and Scott take a listener question on the products and devices they can't stand.
Note: This episode was recorded before former President Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts.
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Elon and Trump, OpenAI's Next Moves, and Melinda French Gates' $1B Donation

Pivot will be back on Friday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher, all about someone we just don't discuss enough – Elon Musk.
Kara has assembled a panel of experts, to get their take on all things Elon: Kirsten Grind from the New York Times, Becky Peterson from The Information, and Tim Higgins, Wall Street Journal columnist, and author of "Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk, and the Bet of the Century." The group talks Tesla, Twitter/X, SpaceX, and more.

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Are Elon’s Best Days Behind Him? | On With Kara Swisher

Kara and Scott discuss the Department of Justice's antitrust suit against Live Nation, News Corp's $250 million deal with OpenAI, and Nestle's new frozen food brand aimed at Ozempic users. Then, Scarlett Johansson alleges OpenAI copied her voice after she refused to license it to Sam Altman, though new reporting says a voice actress was hired months earlier. How does OpenAI move past these accusations, and regain trust? Plus, Nvidia shares blockbuster earnings, while Trump Media's numbers are lackluster. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Julia Angwin, CEO and founder of Proof News, and a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. Julia shares why she thinks AI hype is overblown, and why she opposes the TikTok ban.

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Scarlett vs. OpenAI, Nvidia's Numbers, and Guest Julia Angwin

Kara and Scott discuss Disney character and parade performers voting to unionize, whether a global tax on billionaires could actually happen, and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito's wife flying an upside-down American flag. Then, the Dow passes the 40,000 mark as other markets surge. But are meme stocks creating a little too much froth for investors? Plus, OpenAI deals with another high-profile departure over safety concerns.
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Market Milestone, Alito Flag Fail, and OpenAI Drama

Kara and Scott discuss the Senate's new AI "Roadmap to Legislation," the Biden administration's tariffs on Chinese EVs, and Mark Zuckerberg's 40th birthday bash. Then OpenAI and Google reveal their latest AI models and features. Should we be worried about our AI future? Plus, President Biden and former President Trump are set to face off in two debates — Kara is excited and Scott has concerns. Finally, a listener mail question on setting kids up for the financial road ahead.
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OpenAI's New Model, Presidential Debates, and EV Tariffs

Kara and Scott discuss Sony and Apollo Global wanting to break up Paramount, Apple apologizing after everyone hated the new iPad Pro ad, Melinda Gates resigning from the Gates Foundation, and new reporting that casts doubt on RFK Jr.’s VP pick. Then, earnings, earnings, earnings. What do Kara and Scott think of the latest numbers from Uber, Warner Bros and The New York Times? Plus, Apple has closed in on an agreement with OpenAI to use ChatGPT in iPhone operating systems. And, our Friend of Pivot Adam Moss joins us to discuss his new book, “The Work of Art: How Something Comes From Nothing.”
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Apple’s ChatGPT Deal, Uber Earnings, and Guest Adam Moss

Kara and Scott are live at the Finance Forward Conference in Hamburg, Germany! They discuss TikTok's lawsuit against the U.S. government, as well as the latest earnings from Reddit and Disney. Then, Microsoft and OpenAI launch a $2 million fund to counter election deepfakes. Will that amount of money do anything to move the needle? Plus, Germany is the latest country to test a four-day work week. Could that actually improve productivity?
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TikTok Lawsuit, Reddit's Debut Earnings, and the 4-Day Work Week

Kara and Scott take another look at non-compete agreements: where do they actually make sense? Plus, as the Fed holds interest rates steady, what factors are really affecting inflation? And, with another leadership shakeup at Peloton, can the pandemic-era fitness darling survive? All that and more, including what Big Tech regulation would do to stocks, and some positive thoughts for the rest of the year.
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Non-Competes, Inflation, and Peloton

Kara and Scott discuss Tesla laying off its Supercharger team, WeWork reaching a $450 million restructuring deal, and Dave &amp; Buster's taking a gamble on betting. Then, what do Amazon's latest earnings mean for the company's AI plans? Plus, Walmart shuts down its health centers and CVS stocks take a major tumble. Is anyone doing healthcare right?
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Tesla Layoffs, Amazon Earnings, and Walmart Closes Health Centers

Kara and Scott discuss the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the FTC accusing Amazon of using disappearing messaging apps to conceal potential evidence, and social media reacting to Gov. Kristi Noem's dog tale. Then, what Microsoft and Alphabet's latest earnings reveal about the Big Tech's AI race. Plus, Paramount's drama continues as CEO Bob Bakish steps down. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is California Forever CEO and Founder, Jan Sramek. Jan explains why he wants to build a new community in Solano County, California, and clears up some of the misconceptions.
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Paramount CEO Ouster, Microsoft and Alphabet Earnings, and Guest Jan Sramek

Kara and Scott discuss the campus protests, Harvey Weinstein’s conviction being overturned, and… Kara doing ketamine. Meta and Tesla’s Q1 earnings are out, and Scott’s got predictions on earnings to come. Plus, the FTC bans non-competes. Then, a listener question on what the TikTok ban means for the presidential election.
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Kara's Ketamine Trip, Meta and Tesla Earnings, and the FTC Bans Non-Competes

Kara and Scott discuss Tesla's Cybertruck recall, Sony teaming up with Apollo for a Paramount bid, and Netflix's decision to stop reporting subscriber numbers. Then, the TikTok bill moves closer to becoming a law. Will TikTok's parent company go to court to stop a ban? Plus, is China's decision to crack down on popular messaging apps a retaliatory move? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Dana Mattioli, the Wall Street Journal's Amazon reporter, and author of the new book, "The Everything War: Amazon’s Ruthless Quest to Own the World and Remake Corporate Power." Dana explains what she learned about Amazon's tactics to stay on top.
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TikTok Ban Approaches, China's App Crackdown, and Guest Dana Mattioli

Kara and Scott discuss the new plan to fast-track the TikTok ban bill through Congress, the debate over Caitlin Clark's WNBA salary, and Trump Media's questionable move into streaming. Then, Tesla is asking shareholders to reapprove Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar pay package, despite a judge calling it unfair back in January. Will Elon get his way? Plus, NPR and Google are the latest companies to get publicly called out by employees. How should employers handle criticism and pushback from within? Finally, a listener mail question about who really benefits from dual class stocks.
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TikTok Ban Fast-Tracked, Elon Pay Package Revived, and NPR Bias Accusations

Kara and Scott discuss Google's efforts to avoid paying for news in California, Barry Diller's plan to revitalize The Daily Beast, and Iran's attack on Israel. Then, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are out with first quarter earnings. Is the future looking bright for big banks? Plus, Donald Trump's hush money trial gets underway in Manhattan. How will this case impact the presidential race? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Charles Duhigg, writer for the New Yorker and author of the new book, "Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection." Charles explains why listening is such an important component of conversations.
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Trump on Trial, Big Bank Earnings, and Guest Charles Duhigg

Kara and Scott discuss Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's showstopping appearance at the White House state dinner, David Chang's chili crunch drama, and Meta facing pushback on its political content restrictions. Then, OpenAI prepares to fight numerous legal battles, but do they have a winning strategy? Plus, Paramount Global's proposed merger with Skydance Media is facing opposition from shareholders. Will the deal go through? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Isaac Arnsdorf, Washington Post national political reporter, and author of "Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movement's Ground War to End Democracy." Isaac explains why Steve Bannon believes the MAGA movement could "rule for a hundred years."

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OpenAI Lawyers Up, Paramount's Messy Merger, and Guest Isaac Arnsdorf

Kara and Scott discuss Meta's stock continuing to rise, California businesses challenging Gov. Gavin Newsom on taxes, and Elon Musk's robotaxi announcement. Then, Disney successfully fended off Nelson Peltz in a proxy battle, but where does the company go from here? Plus, could Congress be getting close to actually passing an online privacy bill? Finally, our friend of Pivot is NYU history professor and author of "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present," Ruth Ben-Ghiat. Ruth explains what the autocrats of the past can teach us about Donald Trump.
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Disney's Victory Lap, Online Privacy, and Guest Ruth Ben-Ghiat

Crooked Media’s Jon Favreau joins Kara to co-host! They discuss Trump Media’s stock taking a dive, Jon Stewart saying Apple wouldn’t let him interview Lina Khan, and a new bill in California that could give employees the “right to disconnect.” Then, Louie Swisher joins the mix to talk all things about the upcoming presidential election: bad polls for Biden, an abortion vote in Florida, and disinformation.
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Election Predictions, Trump Media’s Dip, and Guest Host Jon Favreau 

In the third and final part of our Future of work series, Kara and Scott chat with Susan Athey, who teaches The Economics of Technology at Stanford Graduate School of Business. They take a deep dive into AI, discussing how it will impact work as we know it, and whether all the doom and gloom is justified.
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Future of Work: AI

Kara is joined by guest host, Lydia Polgreen, New York Times Opinion columnist and co-host of the "Matter of Opinion" podcast. Kara and Lydia discuss the reactions to Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" album and the viral essay from The Cut that everyone on social media had thoughts on. Then, was Sam Bankman-Fried's 25-year sentence too harsh, or not harsh enough? Plus, OpenAI's announces a new tool to recreate the human voice, but is it too risky? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Ari Wallach, futurist and host of PBS's "A Brief History of the Future." Ari explains why the future doesn't have to be all doom and gloom, and what gives him hope for the next generation.
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SBF Sentenced, OpenAI's New Voice Tool, and Guest Ari Wallach

Kara and Scott discuss the fallout from NBC's Ronna McDaniel debacle, Reddit’s first week on the market, and Trump Media being a meme stock. Plus, Florida’s restrictive law for teens on social media, mifepristone’s fate in the Supreme Court, and the one-year anniversary of Evan Gershkovich's detention in Russia, Then, a listener question on…facial hair and thank you notes.

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Trump's Meme Stock, Florida's Social Media Law, and the Baltimore Bridge Collapse

It's Part 2 of our Future of Work series. Kara and Scott chat with Stanford economics professor and the "Guru of Remote Work," Nick Bloom. Bloom explains why he thinks flexible work has been good for both employees and companies, and why he believes it will increase in the coming years. He also shares a few predictions.

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Future of Work: Why Remote and Hybrid Are Here to Stay

Kara and Scott discuss NBC's internal backlash to hiring former RNC chair Ronna McDaniel, Boeing's CEO stepping down, and how the royal family's PR team messed up the Kate Middleton story. Then, does the DOJ have a good case against Apple in its antitrust lawsuit? Plus, will Donald Trump get a financial boost from Truth Social's parent company going public? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Jim Sciutto, CNN's Chief National Security Analyst, and the author of "The Return of Great Powers: Russia, China, and The Next World War.” Jim discusses how the recent attack in Moscow exposed Putin's vulnerabilities, and also explains why he thinks the U.S. and its allies are facing "a 1939 moment."

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Trump's Truth Social Gamble, NBC's Ronna Revolt, and Guest Jim Sciutto

Kara and Scott discuss the latest Neuralink news, Trump’s $464 million problem, and the DOJ’s Apple lawsuit. Then, Microsoft makes a big move in the AI race, hiring former Google Executive and Deep Mind Co-Founder, Mustafa Suleyman. And Reddit is officially public. Plus, stay tuned for the listener question if you want to hear what movies make Kara and Scott cry. Well…Scott anyway.
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Reddit Goes Public, Microsoft’s Big AI Move, and the DOJ Sues Apple

Kara and Scott are coming at you on a Wednesday with the first of three episodes in our special Future of Work series! They make predictions on what’s to come for the gig economy, DEI, and more. Is hybrid work here to stay? Will vocational training gain traction? How will AI impact the job market in the years to come?
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Predictions on The Future of Work: AI, The Gig Economy, and DEI

Scott fills Kara in on his "clarifying" ketamine experience. Then, Don Lemon releases his much-anticipated Elon Musk interview. Was Elon angry or just bored? Plus, Apple and Google explore a potential AI partnership, the Supreme Court rules on public officials blocking people on social media, and major changes are coming to the world of real estate. Our Friend of Pivot is Dana R. Fisher, Director of the Center for Environment, Community, &amp; Equity at American University, and author of "Saving Ourselves: from Climate Shocks to Climate Action." Dana explains why she's an "apocalyptic optimist," and what's really going to move the needle with climate change activism.
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Apple's AI Plans, Real Estate Shake-up, and Guest Dana R. Fisher

Don Lemon chats with Kara and Scott about the interview with Elon Musk that led to the cancellation of his partnership with X. Don shares his thoughts on Elon, X CEO Linda Yaccarino, and more. Plus, the TikTok bill heads to the Senate, but will a ban actually happen? Kara and Scott have a few predictions...

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Don Lemon on the End of His X Partnership

Live from SXSW... it's a bonus episode of Pivot! Kara and Scott discuss Sam Altman getting reinstated to OpenAI's board following an investigation, fake news sites with ties to Russia popping up in the U.S., and a group of moms launching a grassroots campaign to fight social media addiction. Then, as the House gets closer to passing a potential TikTok ban, Kara and Scott dig into what that actually means. Plus, has Elon Musk been good for Texas?
Recorded on March 9th at SXSW in Austin.

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TikTok Ban, Sam Altman's Return to OpenAI Board, Fake News Sites

Kara and Scott discuss the Oscars, Sen. Katie Britt's viral State of the Union rebuttal, and the Kate Middleton photo manipulation controversy. Then, one year after the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, are banks still in trouble? Plus, Elon Musk says he won't be donating to the Trump or Biden campaigns, but could he still play a big role in the election? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Today Show co-anchor and NBC News' Chief Legal Correspondent, Savannah Guthrie. Savannah has a new book, "Mostly What God Does: Reflections on Seeking and Finding His Love Everywhere," and she explains why she's opening up about her faith now.

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Katie Britt's SOTU Response, SVB Collapse Revisited, and Guest Savannah Guthrie

Kara and Scott discuss Disney’s proxy fight with Nelson Peltz nearing an end, a new cap on credit card late fees, and employers dialing back on coverage of weight loss drugs. Also, the Biden-Trump rematch is getting closer after Super Tuesday. Plus, OpenAI intends to dismiss all of Elon Musk’s legal claims and an open letter for “AI for a Better Future.” Then, a listener question about why Siri is so bad.
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OpenAI Claps Back at Elon, Biden v. Trump Rematch, and Disney’s Proxy Fight

Kara and Scott discuss the state of the presidential race on Super Tuesday, and the Supreme Court ruling on Trump's Colorado ballot eligibility. Then, does Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman hold up in court? Plus, the era of self-regulation for Big Tech appears to be over, at least in the EU. Will that regulation ever make its way to the U.S.? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Tom Scocca, editor of the Substack, Indignity, who recently penned the New York Magazine essay "My Unraveling." Tom discusses his medical mystery and what he learned about the American healthcare system.
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Elon's OpenAI Lawsuit, EU's Big Tech Regulation, and Guest Tom Scocca

Warning: there are already fake AI-generated versions of Kara's book on Amazon. Plus, Kara and Scott discuss Mitch McConnell’s retirement, and the SEC investigation into whether OpenAI’s investors were misled. They also talk about Apple scrapping its almost decade-long plan to release an electric vehicle, and the controversy around Google's Gemini image generation tool. Then, a listener question on what AI can do for HR departments.

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Apple Scraps EVs, Google’s Problematic AI, and the SEC’s OpenAI Investigation

Kara and Scott discuss the Supreme Court cases that could change social media as we know it, and the recent disturbing investigations into parent-run accounts on Instagram. Also, Reddit is finally going public in the first major tech IPO of the year. Will it be successful? Plus, Kara's memoir "Burn Book" is hitting the shelves, featuring fascinating and entertaining stories from her reporting days in Silicon Valley. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is former U.S. Attorney, Barbara McQuade, who's written a new book, "Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America." Barbara explains how she thinks disinformation can be defeated.
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SCOTUS and Social Media, Reddit's IPO, and Guest Barbara McQuade

Kara and Scott weigh in on the Alabama Supreme Court embryo ruling, and what it means for the future of IVF. Then, the Senate moves closer to passing the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), but will regulation actually happen? Also, how Nvidia's monster earnings show AI is not slowing down anytime soon, and the Capital One-Discover merger that's set to shake up the credit card industry. Plus, Kara and Scott have thoughts on whether Trump's $355 million fraud judgment will be bad for business in New York.
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Nvidia Earnings, Tech Regulation, and the Capital One-Discover Merger

Kara and Scott joinWhere Should We Begin? with Esther Perel. Too often we can focus on troubles in our relationships and not what happens when the relationship goes right. This week, Esther explores the inner workings of a pivotal pair with podcast royalty Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway. The hosts of Pivot join Esther to delve into what makes them great to listen to and how being open to surprise and difference invites them each to be better people.
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Secrets to Successful Professional Relationships

Kara and Scott discuss the country’s latest mass shooting in Kansas City, and a new AI gun safety campaign. Also, X may be violating U.S. sanctions by letting terrorist organizations buy check marks, Jeff Bezos is saving big with his move to Florida, and Lyft’s stock went on a wild ride, all due to a typo. Plus, is Tesla’s Full Self-Driving technology to blame for an employee’s death? And is there merit to a lawsuit alleging Match Group’s apps are addictive? Then, Kara and Scott give an economics teacher their takes on what to teach students.

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X’s Check Mark Trouble, Lyft’s Typo, and Bezos’ Tax Break

Kara and Scott discuss the Taylor Swift effect on the Super Bowl, and pick their favorite ads. Then, they've got opinions about the new special counsel report that raised questions about Biden's age and memory. Plus, Disney reports blockbuster earnings, and announces a new investment into Epic Games. Our Friends of Pivot are Zoë Schiffer, Managing Editor of Platformer, and author of “Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk's Twitter," and Kurt Wagner, social media reporter for Bloomberg, and the author of "Battle for the Bird: Jack Dorsey, Elon Musk, and the $44 Billion Fight for Twitter's Soul."
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Disney's "Epic" Deal, Biden's Memory, and Guests Zoë Schiffer and Kurt Wagner

Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump’s lack of immunity in the 2020 election trial, Meta’s efforts to label AI content, and WeWork co-founder Adam Neumann trying to buy back the company. Plus, Warner Bros., Fox, and Disney are launching a sports streaming service, and Dartmouth will again require applicants to submit standardized test scores. And of course, Tucker Carlson has scored an interview with Vladimir Putin. Then, a listener question on what to do when your team is taken out by layoffs
Note: Tucker Carlson released his interview with Putin after we taped. 
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Tucker Carlson’s Putin Interview, Adam Neumann’s WeWork Bid, and Meta’s AI Labels

Kara and Scott discuss Joe Rogan's new $250 million deal with Spotify, the Wall Street Journal's latest report on Elon's drug use, and Nikki Haley's appearance on "Saturday Night Live." Then, the U.S. economy continues to defy expectations, so why isn't Biden benefiting? Plus, Meta's stock rockets to record highs after its latest earnings report, and Facebook turns 20. Our Friend of Pivot is Denise Hamilton, whose new book, "Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences Into a Stronger Future," examines how to reevaluate DEI.
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Meta's Stock Surge, Biden's Economy, and Guest Denise Hamilton

Kara and Scott talk Apple Vision Pro, Disney’s failed lawsuit against Ron DeSantis, and a $100 million deal for the Smartless podcast. Also, will Elon Musk move Tesla to Texas after a Delaware judge voided his $55 billion compensation package? Plus, the upshot of the social media companies' CEOs' testimonies on child safety. Our Friend of Pivot is New York Times reporter Conor Dougherty, who stops by to talk about his piece on the Silicon Valley bigwigs trying to build a city in California.

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Social Media & Child Safety, Elon's Paycheck, and Guest Conor Dougherty

Kara and Scott discuss Amazon bringing ads to Prime Video, the jury's $83 million verdict against Donald Trump in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, and the FTC's investigation of Big Tech's involvement in AI. Then, will the uproar over Taylor Swift and George Carlin deepfakes finally lead to regulation? Plus, what do the ongoing media layoffs mean for the future of journalism? Our Friend of Pivot is Chris Dixon, founder and managing partner of A16Z Crypto, and the author of "Read Write Own: Building the Next Era of the Internet." Chris explains why he (still) thinks crypto and blockchain are the future.

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Deepfake Regulation, Media Layoffs, and Guest Chris Dixon

Kara and Scott are back with you to discuss Oscar nominations, Jon Stewart’s return to The Daily Show, and Trump’s win in New Hampshire. Also, Netflix’s jump in subscribers, Tesla’s underwhelming earnings, and a Microsoft hits three trillion. Then they’re joined by Friend of Pivot, James Bennet, to discuss his recent essay, “When The New York Times Lost Its Way.”
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Netflix’s Subscriber Surge, Tesla Earnings, and Guest James Bennet

Kara and Scott discuss Ron DeSantis' departure from the 2024 race and the Biden/Trump rematch that everyone is dreading. Then, with the good news about the economy and the stock market, what's the best move for investors? Plus, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy fight, and a new report sheds light on the anti-DEI movement. Our Friend of Pivot is Aileen Lee, the founder and managing partner of the VC fund, Cowboy Ventures. She also happens to be the person who coined the term "unicorn" for billion dollar start-ups and shares her latest analysis on those companies.
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DeSantis Drops Out, Stock Market Soars, and Guest Aileen Lee

It’s the first-ever Pivot call-in show! Kara and Scott talk to Pivot listeners and answer questions on Elon, AI, Ozempic, and more. Plus, Apple’s new app store policy is facing backlash, CNN’s CEO maps out his plans for the future, and Bill Ackman is embroiled in yet another controversy.
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Elon’s Power Play, Ozempic Insurance Costs, and the Future of ESG

Pivot will return on Friday! But in the meantime, we're bringing you this special episode of Decoder, all about the demise of Twitter. Nilay Patel talks with Marty Baron, former executive editor of The Washington Post, and Zoe Schiffer, managing editor of Platformer and author of "Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk’s Twitter."
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‎Decoder: How Donald Trump and Elon Musk Killed Twitter, with Marty Baron and Zoe Schiffer

Kara and Scott discuss the final GOP debate before the Iowa caucuses, the SEC approving Bitcoin ETFs, and Apple Vision Pro getting ready to hit the market. Then, Don Lemon is back with a new show, but can X really be a contender in the online video space? Plus, Business Insider's clash with parent company Axel Springer over plagiarism articles on Bill Ackman's wife, Neri Oxman.
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Don Lemon Returns, Bitcoin ETF Approval, and BI vs. Axel Springer

Kara and Scott are back with a lot to discuss! They start with the new Wall Street Journal piece on Elon Musk’s drug use, and get some medical expertise and insights from Kara's brother, Dr. Jeffrey Swisher. Then, they discuss the fallout from Harvard president Claudine Gay's resignation, and Bill Ackman's wife facing plagiarism charges. Plus, Disney's family feud between ESPN and Jimmy Kimmel, a possible Warner Bros/Paramount merger on the horizon, and more.
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Musk Drug Use, Plagiarism Debates, & Disney's Family Feud

Kara and Scott are starting off the new year answering your listener questions! They tackle why more tech people aren't serving in government, whether Prof G AI compensates Kara, and if girl math is a good thing. Plus, a discussion of personal blindsides and New Year’s resolutions revealed.

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AI Copyrights, Girl Math, and Blindsides

Kara and Scott look back at highlights from the biggest themes of the year: learning to live with AI, labor strikes, the economic impact of girl power, and a sprinkling of Elon. Plus, what would Pivot be without some insults, squabbles, and humblebrags? 
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The Year in Pivot: AI, Unions, Taylor Swift, and Insults Galore

As 2023 comes to an end, Kara and Scott are revisiting some of their favorite Friends of Pivot interviews, including fascinating and thought-provoking conversations with Esther Perel, Mehdi Hasan, Lakshmi Rengarajan, and Rupublicans co-founder Craig DeForest 

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Best Friends of Pivot

It’s time for our annual predictions episode! Kara and Scott share their 2024 predictions on politics, stocks, China, Google and more. Plus, some Friend of Pivot predictions from Jen Psaki, Mike Birbiglia, Fei-Fei Li, Bill Cohan, Dr. Joy Buolamwini, and Matt Belloni. 

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2024 Predictions on AI, The Election, X's Future and More

Kara and Scott discuss Tesla recalling 2 million vehicles, Netflix revealing viewership statistics, and a couple of….terrifying liquids. Then, nearly 200 countries have approved a global pact that calls for transitioning away from fossil fuels at COP28. And Epic Games has beat Google in court, with a jury ruling the company violated antitrust laws. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Naomi Alderman, on her new book, “The Future.”
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Epic Games Wins Against Google, COP 28, and Guest Naomi Alderman

Kara and Scott discuss Tucker Carlson's new streaming service, Elon letting Alex Jones back on X, and whether the criticism of Google's Gemini demo video is warranted. Then, UPenn's president resigns after that Congressional testimony last week, will the other presidents follow? Plus, the EU moves forward with its landmark AI Act. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is "Pod Save America" co-host and "Pollercoaster" host, Dan Pfeiffer. Dan gives us insight into the latest election poll numbers and shares some advice for Biden and the Democrats.
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"Free Speech Warriors," EU's AI Act, and Guest Dan Pfeiffer

Kara and Scott discuss TIME's Person of the Year, Taylor Swift, George Santos' Cameo stardom, and yet another Republican debate. Then, they critique the testimony of three university presidents who spoke to Congress about anti-semitism on their campuses. And it’s a big week in AI news: Meta is teaming up with IBM to form an “AI Alliance,” Google launched a new model, “Gemini,” and Elon Musk’s AI startup has filed with the SEC to raise up to $1 billion. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Chief Strategy Officer for Ad Fontes Media, Lou Paskalis to discuss Linda Yaccarino’s decision to stick it out at X.
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Taylor Swift, AI Alliance, University Presidents, and Guest Lou Paskalis

Kara and Scott discuss the Dow's record highs and home ownership's new lows. Then, George Santos leaves Congress like a "Scandal in the Wind," while the Newsom/DeSantis debate was a circus of another kind. Plus, Google is accused of suppressing evidence, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy battle, and "rizz" is the word of the year (Do Kara and Scott have it?!). Our Friend of Pivot is Sixto Cancel, the CEO and Founder of Think of Us, who's on a mission to revolutionize the country's child welfare system.
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Dow is Up, Santos is Out, and Guest Sixto Cancel

We have a newspalooza for you today. Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk's decision to put advertisers on blast, Henry Kissinger's death, Nikki Haley's next steps, those Mark Cuban political rumors, and Microsoft's non-voting seat at OpenAI. Then, guest Rob Copeland joins to discuss his new book, “The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and The Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend.”
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Elon, Kissinger, Cuban, Haley, IPOs, and Guest Rob Copeland

Kara and Scott discuss Jeff Zucker's return to the news business, and the cost of advertiser backlash in Elon Musk's antisemitism controversy. Then, Sam Altman is back at OpenAI, but who are the winners and losers after all the chaos? Plus, a new complaint reveals what Meta knew about its underage users. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is legendary venture capitalist Alan Patricof. At age 89, Patricof is as active as ever, and he explains why the longevity economy is a smart investment.
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Sam Altman's Return to OpenAI, Meta's Underage Users, and Guest Alan Patricof

Happy Thanksgiving! While Kara and Scott take a break after a crazy week of news, enjoy this episode of Decoder, featuring Nilay Patel's interview with former President Obama on AI, free speech, regulation, and more.

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Decoder: Barack Obama on AI, Free Speech, and the Future of the Internet

Kara shares her latest reporting on Sam Altman and his decision to go to Microsoft, then she and Scott discuss what's next for OpenAI. Plus, Elon Musk threatens a "thermonuclear lawsuit," and X CEO Linda Yaccarino resists calls to resign. Our Friend of Pivot is Dr. Joy Buolamwini, founder of the Algorithmic Justice League, and author of "Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines." Dr. Joy gives her take on OpenAI and the Altman ouster, and also discusses her mission to root out bias in AI.Follow Joy at @jovialjoy
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Sam Altman Goes to Microsoft, Elon Goes Thermonuclear, and Guest Dr. Joy Buolamwini

In the swirl of drama around Sam Altman’s exit from OpenAI, one company seems to be the winner: Microsoft. It has both a significant partnership with, and an ownership stake in, the company, and now it's welcoming Altman and OpenAI researchers with open arms. For this emergency episode, Kara interviews Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella.
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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on the OpenAI Debacle

It's an emergency crossover episode of Pivot and the Prof G Pod and there's a lot to discuss. Sam Altman is out as CEO of OpenAI – but what exactly happened? Kara shares her latest reporting. Plus, major advertisers are fleeing X after Elon Musk endorsed an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Will Elon and X survive the firestorm? Kara and Scott break it all down.
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Emergency Episode! Sam Altman Out at OpenAI and X's Advertiser Exodus

Kara and Scott discuss Nikki Haley's social media stance, Truth Social's waning prospects, and the revelation that Google sends a third of Safari ad revenue to Apple. And don’t worry, they also talk about the Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez photoshoot. You’re welcome/we’re sorry. Then, in the fight club that is DC, a government shutdown has been averted for now. Also, a look at how hate speech has surged on social media since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Adrian Aoun, CEO and Founder of the health tech startup Forward, which is launching what it calls, “the world’s first AI doctor’s office.”
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Government Shutdown Averted, A Surge in Hate Speech, and Guest Adrian Aoun

Kara and Scott discuss the new (and bizarre) AI pin, and Trump's desire for a televised trial. Also, the threat of a government shutdown is back, but will Speaker Mike Johnson be able to make a deal in time? Plus, what we're learning about the AI provisions in the new SAG-AFTRA agreement, and why not everyone is happy. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is New York Times President and CEO, Meredith Levien, who talks about the current state of journalism, subscription strategies, and yes, Wordle.
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Shutdown Deja Vu, AI and Actors, and Guest Meredith Levien

Kara and Scott discuss the winners and losers from the GOP debate, Disney's latest earnings, and why Rivian seems to be bucking EV trends. Then, the 118-day SAG-AFTRA strike is coming to an end, but who's really coming out on top? Plus, OpenAI makes a big announcement that Kara calls a "power move." Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Mattie Kahn, who writes about girls being a force for change in her new book, "Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America's Revolutions."
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Actors Strike Ends, OpenAI's Big Moves, and Guest Mattie Kahn

Kara and Scott discuss why Jeff Bezos is really moving to Florida, major changes coming to the real estate business and Elon's new AI bot, Grok. Plus, what's next for crypto and investors after Sam Bankman-Fried's guilty verdict. Then, with less than a year to go until the 2024 presidential election, should everyone calm down about the latest polls? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill, who has written about facial recognition and privacy in her new book, "Your Face Belongs to Us: A Secretive Startup's Quest to End Privacy as We Know It."
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