Russia without Putin? Ukraine, War Crimes, and Political Resistance

Evgenia Kara-Murza, is a Russian dissident and campaigner for democratic change in Russia.    Evgenia is the wife of Vladimir Kara-Murza, a Russian politician, author, and historian who is currently jailed in Russia as a political prisoner of Vladimir Putin having previously survived two assasination attempts. Kara-Murza played a key role in the establishment of Magnitsky laws around the world and has been a long time opponent of Putin's regime.   Evgenia is the advocacy coordinator for the Free Russia Foundation, which seeks to give a voice to those repressed by the current Russian government and informs the world about the situation in Russia.   Misha Zelinksy caught up with Evgenia to discuss Russia's war in Ukraine, Russian war crimes and who must pay, why the West indulged Putin for too long, how Putin has crushed Russian political opposition, why Ukraine must win, and what a post Putin Russia might look like one day.   You can follow Evgenia and Vladimir here: @ekaramurza and @vkaramurza   You can follow Misha Zelinsky who is reporting on the war for the Australian Financial Review from inside Ukraine here: @mishazelinsky     About Vladimir Kara-Murza   A longtime colleague of opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, he has served as deputy leader of the People’s Freedom Party and was a candidate for the Russian Parliament. Kara-Murza played a key role in the passage of “Magnitsky laws” in countries around the world – including the UK, the U.S., and Canada – that imposed personal sanctions on Russian officials involved in human rights abuses.  Twice, in 2015 and 2017, he was targeted for assassination by poisoning by operatives of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) who were later identified in a media investigation by Bellingcat, The Insider, and Der Spiegel. In April 2022 Kara-Murza was arrested and has since been imprisoned in Moscow for his public opposition to Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine.  He has been designated as a prisoner of conscience by Amnesty International. Kara-Murza is the author or contributor of several books and documentaries on Russian politics and history. He has worked as a journalist for Russian and Western media organizations, including Kommersant, Echo of Moscow, and the BBC; and writes a regular column for The Washington Post. He is a recipient of a number of international prizes, including the Geneva Summit Courage Award, the Sakharov Prize for Journalism as an Act of Conscience, and the Magnitsky Human Rights Award. He holds an M.A. (Cantab.) in History from Cambridge.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.