Dr Charles Edel: The gathering storm? How the 'Lessons of Tragedy' can help us preserve peace.

Dr Charles Edel is a Senior Fellow at the United States Studies Centre.He was the Associate Professor of Strategy and Policy at the U.S. Naval War College, advised the Secretary of State John Kerry on political and security issues in the Asia-Pacific and was a Henry Luce scholar at Peking University.Charles is the co-author of ‘The Lessons of Tragedy: Statecraft and World Order (2019)’ and his editorials regularly appear in The New York Times and other publications.Misha Zelinsky caught up with Charlie for a chinwag about Mike Pompeo’s visit to Australia, the ongoing US-China tensions, whether we are seeing a repeat of the gathering storm of the 1930s, the brave protesters of Hong Kong, how democracy can revitalise itself, the dangerous polices of the Chinese Communist Party and why it’s so important that we learn from historic tragedy. It was a wide ranging chat and we hope you enjoy it!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.