Episode 2: Is there a 500-pound panda in the room?

Recorded at Malcolm Turnbull’s Sovereignty and Security forum held in Canberra. This panel discusses the nature of the security threats Australia faces, and reassesses the assumptions that have informed our economic, foreign and defence policies.  Panellists include: Professor Hugh White, Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at ANU, founding Director of ASPI, worked for several Labor Leaders, and served in the Defence Department; Dr Geoff Raby, Australia’s Ambassador to China from 2007-11, served as Ambassador to the WTO in Geneva, and Ambassador to APEC; Dr Heather Smith, Secretary and Deputy Secretary across a range of portfolios, including Deputy Director-General of the Office of National Intelligence, and co-led the 2024 Independent Review of Australia’s National Intelligence Community. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.