Brené with Jon Meacham on the Soul of America
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I’m talking with Pulitzer Prize–winning historian Jon Meacham about what history can teach us about leading through crises and deep political divides. We discuss the importance of humility and candor and how our history reflects the ongoing fight between our better angels and our worst instincts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
